[Imc-sydney] Meaning of "control" and removing shit

diet simon diet_simon at bigpond.com
Sun Apr 20 19:26:02 UTC 2008


Hello Cam,

Because of my lean computer skill I've been too timid to try out the Wiki 
page and too timid to ask for help. I thank you for setting it up for me.

I disagree that I should not  have posted that story to begin with.

Lots of IMCs, including ours, apparently (which shocked me), are in trouble 
or morphing, so the subject is perfectly legitimate and perhaps even 
illuminating.

At http://www.onelook.com/?w=controller there are 47 dictionaries with 
English definitions that include the word controller. The first four I 
opened up gave me

-   somebody who controls or organizes something: somebody in a managing, 
supervising, or monitoring position

-   one that controls or has power or authority to control

-   a person who controls something

-   one who regulates or controls.

Isn't that precisely what all of us with editorial power do? I can't with 
any stretch of the imagination see any reason to take offence at the word.

Not even with my fairly extensive experience of the behaviour of these 
particular controllers could I have "known that it would be provocative and
possibly start a flame war". Yes, I do know that they hate it being 
mentioned at all that they have any kind of power - I just can't understand 
why.

And yes, I have already happily removed and will continue to remove "the 
shit" off the newswire and am much relieved that that's OK at least by you, 
having had no response from anyone else.

Regards,

Diet


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> I don't want our Sydney IMC space to be contaminated by my dispute with 
> people running IMC Germany. The dispute can run its course in other 
> channels accessible to anyone interested.
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> So in future I intend to use my editorial power to remove anything about 
> this dispute from our site.
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> Sydney IMC users, please let me know through our discussion list whether 
> you think that's OK.
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> diet simon wrote:
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>> Please see
>> http://sydney.indymedia.org.au/story/activists-trying-set-second-imc-germany-dispute-controllers#comment-74352
>>
>>
>> I don't want our Sydney IMC space to be contaminated by my dispute
>> with people running IMC Germany. The dispute can run its course in
>> other channels accessible to anyone interested.
>>
>> So in future I intend to use my editorial power to remove anything
>> about this dispute from our site.
>>
>> Sydney IMC users, please let me know through our discussion list
>> whether you think that's OK.
>>
>> Diet
>
> I don't think you should have posted that story to begin with,
> particularly with 'the controllers' bit in the title. Whether the title
> is fair or not, you should have known that it would be provocative and
> possibly start a flame war.
>
> Yeah, keep all that shit off the newswire.
>
> I notice you're still posting to the resolve list yet you've put nothing
> on your wiki page.
>
>
> Cam
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