[Imc-sydney] German IndyMedia

[diet simon]

Cam and folks,

Firstly, I'm glad there's a process for disaffiliation available in 
principle.

I can empathise with your reluctance, though, and take the point about it 
getting ugly.

That said, the German mods have got progressively worse over the years. Take 
my word for it, I lived in the country until a year and a half ago, so you 
have someone in our group, me, who knows the other side of the planet. 
Germany is such an important and populous country we shouldn't leave the 
field to these self-opiniated schoolmasterly censors to run a poor site. 
They cut us off from thousands of people who might be solid with us on many 
actions, for example as global petitioners.

How do you and others feel about me building a case file on their behaviour 
from here on in for submission to you all with view to getting your 
endorsement for a disaffiliation request?

If your or the imc-process list knock it back, we drop it and don't waste 
any more energy and aggro on it.

Mind you, that would leave one more wonky IndyMedia in operation in addition 
to more and more I see getting peculiar all over. There has to be a huge 
temptation attached to treat it as one's property.

I can't see that leaving Europe to deal with it will get anywhere. 
Neighbours don't like to pick at neighbours.

I suggest this is an exception.

Regards,

Diet.




> Any indymedia can be disaffiliated from the network through a proposal to 
> the global network by a local collective. So you would have to propose 
> this to sydney imc, we would have to endorse it as a collective. Then the 
> proposal would be sent to the imc-process list. If no other local 
> collective in the world blocks the proposal, it passes, and the DNS techs 
> can be directed to remove the domain.
>
> In relation to Germany IMC, I imagine it would be blocked fairly quickly 
> by other European IMCs. I personally would not support such a move. Being 
> on the other side of the planet to Germany, i think we have no place 
> telling them what to do. I think its up to other European IMC's to deal 
> with things in their area. I say this from experience. When we tried to 
> disaffiliate Darwin IMC, a couple of IMC's from the other side of the 
> planet blocked us. They had little knowledge of the real situation here.
>
> Disaffiliation gets ugly, divides the network, and generally burns a lot 
> of people out. I strongly believe that any action of this sort should be 
> taken on the regional level. That is, Oceania looks after itself, Europe 
> looks after itself, North America looks after itself, and so on. Of course 
> there may be exceptions.
>
>
> Cam