[Imc-oceania] Re: Imc-oceania Digest, Vol 25, Issue 4

Fri Sep 7 19:05:50 UTC 2007

Great ideas.

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>   1. Imc-Aus Re: [Imc-oceania] PROPOSAL: United IMC (wowi at grepgrrl.org)
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> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 00:59:56 +0800 (WST)
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> Subject: Imc-Aus Re: [Imc-oceania] PROPOSAL: United IMC
> To: imc-aus at indymedia.org.au, Imc-oceania at indymedia.org.au
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> Hi all,
>
> this is my somewhat delayed response to Cam's original United IMC
> proposal. Apologies in advance if it's a rehash of other peoples
> responses..
> *Pls note my added suggestion for a CopWatch wire.
>
> I'm just getting back into this network..but I've liked the idea of Aus
> IMC since I first heard it at Oceania Conf.
>
> (cc'd mail)-> to anyone interested to join Imc-Aus:
> http://lists.indymedia.org.au/mailman/listinfo/imc-aus
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> whatever happens.. i'm excited !
>
> wowi.
>
> <begins>
>
> Re: [Imc-oceania] PROPOSAL: United IMC
>
> I'm not supporting a 'united' Oceania site effort. I think it's too hard
> to co-ordinate across languages (Burma - when
> functional/Philippines/Jakarta), and cultural contexts. Perhaps the
> initial proposal is too big a project?
>
> Facilitating Australian radical news is a big enough project as it is. We
> need to concentrate on talking about what is happening *here*, and getting
> a central point of info exchange for radicals to use - network/resource,
> and to better document Australian movements/campaigns. If we want to be
> effective, we need to focus on our context, and make a stronger tool for
> action.
>
> Considering a lot of Australian IMC's are defunct.. there is definitely
> dire need for an Aus IMC site, and experienced crew out there who can help
> maintain it. (Imc-Adelaide/Imc-Melb!?)
>
>> This project does not aim to replace existing Indymedia collectives or
>> websites, rather it serves as a starting point for new individuals and
>> collectives and shared space for us all to combine our energies and
>> present our work.
>
> I see no need for local sites to stop, if there is  enough geek/editoral
> power. However consider the case of Imc-Scottland, formerly part of the
> IMC-UK page, who now find their stories/traffic split between sites.
> Additionally, a consolidated Australia site with city sections could mean
> a consolidation of the work load, particularly within a transient activist
> community.
>
> CMS: I'm totally cool with drupal. For the sake of organisation, perhaps
> stories should be tagged by both cities and themes.
> Either a login open publishing system like SIMC, or moderated open
> publishing.
>
> Wishlist: -Strong solidarity links with indymedias in the Oceania region.
> Links to Oceania Newsreal and Engage Media,
> -an ability to make photographic stories with captions (like nz imc),
> -an ability to upload/share audio, for other Indymedia/Community radio
> shows to pick up and play on air.
>
> Name/Style: I think the title "united" is ambiguous and a tad orwellian.
> http://australia.indymedia.org/   or    http://au.indymedia.org/   or
> something more indig respecting?  http://country.indymedia.org/
> <-ambigous
> -Banner theme could be a rainbow serpent (respect?), or something with a
> strong indig flavour to try and counter the colonial/national inference.
> I'd like to see a strong acknowledgement to indig people so that they
> really feel welcome to use the site, because a lot of indig elders I met
> at the ANFA meeting really support and like the project.
>
> Editorial Policy /Mission (Principles of Unity) statement /Consensus
> Policy (with Conflict Resolution section): we can consider an amalgamation
> between existing local and global docs.I'd be happy to work on this, (and
> am fairly exp'd with it), in a temporary working group.
>
> NewIMC: I am also on the new-imc list so would be happy to sort that with
> Cam.
>
> *An addition to the PROPOSAL:*
> It would be fantastic to have a moderated open publishing national
> "copwatch" wire. so people can post photos of cops bashing people, for
> later legal use (a vital activist resource)! It is not defamation if its
> true, so aslong as the photos are clearly cop->protest brutalising then we
> are ok. (checked with the Union)
>
> Final Rant:
> The need for an Australian IMC site is stronger than ever.
> 1. large areas of this country have no way to publish radical news.
> Melbourne/Adelaide/Darwin/Brisbane, and PARTICULARLY rural Australia.
> Consider Alice Springs has a diverse radical community, one of the
> potentially biggest campaigns in Australia (proposed
> commonwealth/international radioactive waste dump) and no way to
> effectively disperse info.
> 2. Australia wide radical protest convergences are regular events that
> need better coverage. An AU site would allow for a continuation of
> onground networking, and resource sharing, with simulataneous national, as
> well as city coverage.
> egs; Baxter 05 reporting required a new site, which no longer exists, and
> then manual syndication (posting) to local sites. APEC has decentralised
> actions that would be better covered all on an Imc-Aus site.
> 3. small city collectives cannot cope with the amount of spam on local 
> sites
> 4. we need to enable Aus activist networking/communication more than ever
> ! There's been too much power with a coalition senate + murdoch press..
> its time to redistribute !
>
> <end>
>
>
> Cameron Gregg wrote:
>> Here is a more detailed proposal for a united Oceania effort.
>> --------
>> Proposal:
>>
>> Convert oceania.indymedia.org into an open publishing website.
>>
>> Form an editorial and tech collective to maintain the site. All people
>> of current IMCs can of course be in these collectives.
>>
>> Maintain and extend the ability to syndicate in feeds from other
>> Indymedia websites and perhaps non-indymedia websites too.
>>
>> This project does not aim to replace existing Indymedia collectives or
>> websites, rather it serves as a starting point for new individuals and
>> collectives and shared space for us all to combine our energies and
>> present our work.
>>
>> Maintain the imc-oceania list as a place for all oceania people to
>> communicate and organise. Create an editorial list for this projects
>> activity to take place on.
>>
>> Utilise an editorial process to minimize disruption by trolls and
>> trouble makers such as having trusted users which can promote good
>> content to a wire for general consumption.
>>
>> Facilitate translation of articles and website interface.
>>
>> Create the following documents for the operation of the collective and
>> website: Mission statement, editorial policy, conflict resolution.
>>
>> Once organised, put ourselves through the global new-imc process.
>>
>> --------
>>
>>
>> Consensus, participation and time limit.
>>
>>
>> All collectives in the Oceania network should consent or stand aside for
>> the proposal to pass.
>>
>> Participation by people from throughout Oceania is crucial for the
>> project to be legitimate. People should indicate willingness to
>> participate separately from their general support for the project.
>>
>> An initial time limit for this proposal and consensus test is 4 weeks.
>> Ending Wednesday 15th of August.
>
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