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Subject: imc-melbourne post from wowi at grepgrrl.org requires approvalFrom: imc-melbourne-owner at lists.indymedia.orgTo: imc-melbourne-owner at lists.indymedia.orgDate: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:00:58 +0000As list administrator, your authorization is requested for thefollowing mailing list posting:     List:    imc-melbourne at lists.indymedia.org    From:    wowi at grepgrrl.org    Subject: Imc-Aus Re: [Imc-oceania] PROPOSAL: United IMC    Reason:  Post by non-member to a members-only list At your convenience, visit:     https://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/admindb/imc-melbourne        to approve or deny the request.
--Forwarded Message Attachment--Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 00:59:56 +0800Subject: Imc-Aus Re: [Imc-oceania] PROPOSAL: United IMCFrom: wowi at grepgrrl.orgTo: imc-aus at indymedia.org.au; Imc-oceania at indymedia.org.auCC: imc-melbourne at lists.indymedia.org; imc-adelaide at lists.indymedia.org; imc-perth at lists.indymedia.org; imc-darwin at lists.indymedia.orgHi all, this is my somewhat delayed response to Cam's original United IMCproposal. Apologies in advance if it's a rehash of other peoplesresponses..*Pls note my added suggestion for a CopWatch wire. I'm just getting back into this network..but I've liked the idea of AusIMC since I first heard it at Oceania Conf. (cc'd mail)-> to anyone interested to join Imc-Aus:http://lists.indymedia.org.au/mailman/listinfo/imc-aus whatever happens.. i'm excited ! wowi. <begins> Re: [Imc-oceania] PROPOSAL: United IMC I'm not supporting a 'united' Oceania site effort. I think it's too hardto co-ordinate across languages (Burma - whenfunctional/Philippines/Jakarta), and cultural contexts. Perhaps theinitial proposal is too big a project? Facilitating Australian radical news is a big enough project as it is. Weneed to concentrate on talking about what is happening *here*, and gettinga central point of info exchange for radicals to use - network/resource,and to better document Australian movements/campaigns. If we want to beeffective, we need to focus on our context, and make a stronger tool foraction. Considering a lot of Australian IMC's are defunct.. there is definitelydire need for an Aus IMC site, and experienced crew out there who can helpmaintain it. (Imc-Adelaide/Imc-Melb!?) > This project does not aim to replace existing Indymedia collectives or> websites, rather it serves as a starting point for new individuals and> collectives and shared space for us all to combine our energies and> present our work. I see no need for local sites to stop, if there is  enough geek/editoralpower. However consider the case of Imc-Scottland, formerly part of theIMC-UK page, who now find their stories/traffic split between sites.Additionally, a consolidated Australia site with city sections could meana consolidation of the work load, particularly within a transient activistcommunity. CMS: I'm totally cool with drupal. For the sake of organisation, perhapsstories should be tagged by both cities and themes.Either a login open publishing system like SIMC, or moderated openpublishing. Wishlist: -Strong solidarity links with indymedias in the Oceania region.Links to Oceania Newsreal and Engage Media,-an ability to make photographic stories with captions (like nz imc),-an ability to upload/share audio, for other Indymedia/Community radioshows to pick up and play on air. Name/Style: I think the title "united" is ambiguous and a tad orwellian.http://australia.indymedia.org/   or    http://au.indymedia.org/   orsomething more indig respecting?  http://country.indymedia.org/ <-ambigous-Banner theme could be a rainbow serpent (respect?), or something with astrong indig flavour to try and counter the colonial/national inference.I'd like to see a strong acknowledgement to indig people so that theyreally feel welcome to use the site, because a lot of indig elders I metat the ANFA meeting really support and like the project. Editorial Policy /Mission (Principles of Unity) statement /ConsensusPolicy (with Conflict Resolution section): we can consider an amalgamationbetween existing local and global docs.I'd be happy to work on this, (andam fairly exp'd with it), in a temporary working group. NewIMC: I am also on the new-imc list so would be happy to sort that withCam. *An addition to the PROPOSAL:*It would be fantastic to have a moderated open publishing national"copwatch" wire. so people can post photos of cops bashing people, forlater legal use (a vital activist resource)! It is not defamation if itstrue, so aslong as the photos are clearly cop->protest brutalising then weare ok. (checked with the Union) Final Rant:The need for an Australian IMC site is stronger than ever.1. large areas of this country have no way to publish radical news.Melbourne/Adelaide/Darwin/Brisbane, and PARTICULARLY rural Australia.Consider Alice Springs has a diverse radical community, one of thepotentially biggest campaigns in Australia (proposedcommonwealth/international radioactive waste dump) and no way toeffectively disperse info.2. Australia wide radical protest convergences are regular events thatneed better coverage. An AU site would allow for a continuation ofonground networking, and resource sharing, with simulataneous national, aswell as city coverage.egs; Baxter 05 reporting required a new site, which no longer exists, andthen manual syndication (posting) to local sites. APEC has decentralisedactions that would be better covered all on an Imc-Aus site.3. small city collectives cannot cope with the amount of spam on local sites4. we need to enable Aus activist networking/communication more than ever! There's been too much power with a coalition senate + murdoch press..its time to redistribute ! <end>  Cameron Gregg wrote:> Here is a more detailed proposal for a united Oceania effort.> --------> Proposal:>> Convert oceania.indymedia.org into an open publishing website.>> Form an editorial and tech collective to maintain the site. All people> of current IMCs can of course be in these collectives.>> Maintain and extend the ability to syndicate in feeds from other> Indymedia websites and perhaps non-indymedia websites too.>> This project does not aim to replace existing Indymedia collectives or> websites, rather it serves as a starting point for new individuals and> collectives and shared space for us all to combine our energies and> present our work.>> Maintain the imc-oceania list as a place for all oceania people to> communicate and organise. Create an editorial list for this projects> activity to take place on.>> Utilise an editorial process to minimize disruption by trolls and> trouble makers such as having trusted users which can promote good> content to a wire for general consumption.>> Facilitate translation of articles and website interface.>> Create the following documents for the operation of the collective and> website: Mission statement, editorial policy, conflict resolution.>> Once organised, put ourselves through the global new-imc process.>> -------->>> Consensus, participation and time limit.>>> All collectives in the Oceania network should consent or stand aside for> the proposal to pass.>> Participation by people from throughout Oceania is crucial for the> project to be legitimate. People should indicate willingness to> participate separately from their general support for the project.>> An initial time limit for this proposal and consensus test is 4 weeks.> Ending Wednesday 15th of August. 
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