[imc-melbourne-work] trademark/copyright + legacy friends use of image

[Nigel W]

Legacy do not appear to be particularly interested in standing up against injustice, nor do they appear to be particularly interested in being our "friends". If they were, they would be rather more concerned about the Humans who've been adversely affected by the nuclear tests than about making sanctimonious noises about their little logo. Considering that - with perhaps a few exceptions - the Australian military has never been used to defend Australia but has instead been repeatedly used to help implement various militaristic agendas of the very Globalist forces which are attacking Australia, and that Legacy help to de-odourise these agendas, a *very* strong case could be made that Legacy are committing treason, fraud and aiding and abetting crimes against the Commonwealth (no, I'm not exaggerating - there are a numerous powerful legal tools out there which numerous associates of mine have unearthed and successfully utilised. Lawyers - including ostensibly "progressive"
 ones - are basically trained to ignore them).
    I agree with Lachlan - we should politely say "Thanks, but no thanks". If Legacy choose to pursue this matter further, then we should behave decently towards them by politely informing them that aiding and abetting crimes against the Commonwealth is not a legacy that's worth defending.

                                                All the best,
                                                                Nigel

ps: Yes, I can imagine Bush & Co. behaving decently to people. I can also imagine that were this to become a reality, Airforce One would crash in Pennsylvania complete with a recorded cell phone conversation of Bush saying "Bring it on!" while bravely trying to regain control of the aircraft from one of Saddama bin Whatshisname's suicide pilots.

:)




Valerie Yule <vyule at labyrinth.net.au> wrote: There are many enemies you cannot avoid having, for sticking to
principles of life and death.  YOu have to take risks and stand up to them.

There are many decent people you need not offend, even if you think
they are being petty.  Legacy has been a terrific organization,
often standing up against injustice,
and it is worth having them as frends, and more likely to agree
with what you do than becoming implacably offended over what is
after all trivial for indymedia.

I strongly recommend behaving decently to Legacy and taking off the
pic - which means nothing to you.  Send a frendly reply.

Imagine if Bush and co behaved decently to people!

In solidarity - let us avoid being solid from the neck up

val



>I think it's a legitimate use. Once you put your image out there, it's
>ripe for re-use.
>
>I also think that Legacy don't know what they are talking about and
>are using the "throw heaps of shit, see what sticks"  method - one I
>find particularly appalling.
>
>I think we would have to actually talk to a lawyer to really know, but
>I call bullshit on "trade mark" infringement. In what manner could
>legacy have a trademark, since they don't trade (apart from cheap
>chinese knock offs)?
>
>I think we should politely write back and say exactly what you have
>said - the article is 4 years old, it's by a regular poster to our
>site who has no credibility, it clearly states at the bottom both
>"Opinions are those of the contributors and are not necessarily
>endorsed by the Melbourne Independent Media Center." and "N(c)" and
>that as the article is critical of the military, then there is a fair
>argument to say it's a relevant use of the image. Thanks but no
>thanks.
>
>cheers
>L.
>
>On 3/30/07, takver  wrote:
>
>>posted to MIM in a slightly modified form. They imply that a breach of
>>trade mark and copyright has taken place.
>>
>>http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2003/05/47281.php
>>
>>They have asked that the image be removed.
>>
>>What do people think? Discussion? Yes, I know, the article is from 2003,
>>was posted by Mick, but does actually relate in an oblique way to the
>>work of Legacy as the story is about deaths possibly due to radiation
>>during the British Nuclear tests in SA, including children of military
>>personnel.
>
>
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