From and at antimedia.net Fri May 2 02:17:52 2003 From: and at antimedia.net (and) Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 12:17:52 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] indyapp for global funding In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1051841872.3eb1d5504b2db@webmail.myspinach.org> cool. thanks. Sending in the application depends on whether there are people who are interested in taking the project of building a specifically indymedia space on. There was only 4 of us last week. Hopefully quite a few will turn up for this weeks meeting and we can make a decision as to whether there is energy to do it. I am planning on going away for a few months fairly soon so I wouldn't be around to help. Putting a big callout on the website might get a bit of energy though. a Quoting peta burgess : > > And, > This letter is great. I've done a bit of tweaking - probably a bit too much - > which I hope is of some assistance. Sorry if it sounds wanky. See-ya. > Peta > > > > > > > > > > >From: and > > >Reply-To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > > >To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > > >Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] indyapp for global funding > > >Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 16:19:36 +1000 > > > > > >this is a draft and still depends on whether we decide at the meeting on > > >tuesday that there are people who are gunna be arouund who are committed to > > > >making a specifically melbourne indymedia space happen. > > >a > > > > > > > > >Melbourne Indymedia Application for Funding > > > > > >Funds to Keep Melbourne IMC going. > > > > > >The Spacestation media lab [http://spacestation.org.au], which > > >currently provides computer and internet resources and a > > >work and meeting space for Melbourne Indymedia, is closing down in > > >one month due to lack of finances. Until recently > > >Indymedia have had access to this space at minimal > > >cost - around AU$200 a year. The closure of the Spacestation media lab > > >will leave Melbourne Indymedia with neither net access nor computer > > >resources; without a physical home, a space to organise, or the > > >ability to provide open computer access to contributors and affiliates of > the IMC project. > > > > > >We recently launched a new site and have switchedthe > > >Stallman server in preference of a new 'local' server. This incurs a new > cost of around $500 a year for hosting. We also maintain an in-house > > >server the runs our Indymedia Phone system (PIMP). This enables Sydney, > Brisbane, Adelaide and Melbourne Indymedias to > > >publish audio reports to the newswire by phone. This costs us around > > >$300 a year. The in-house server is also used as a testing server by > > >the Melbourne Indymedia collective. > > > > > >We hope to appropriate some of the space currently occupied by > > >the Spacestation media lab but urgently require funds to > > pay the rent. > > > > > >The projected cost of maintaining the space for the next six months, which > > > >includes acquiring several second-hand computers (and getting them up and > running), is approximately $1200. This estimate allows time for us to > stabilise Melbourne IMC and > > >generate our own local fundraising program. > > > > > We require funds to facilitate the complete re-establishment of an IMC > workspace. Any assistance the global network > > >can provide would be greatly appreciated. To that > > >end we are requesting funds from the global network to the total of > > >AU$2000 (for the space, server costs and phone system costs). We hope > > >that this request can be processed quickly due to the immediacy of our > situation. > > > > > >Thanks > > >Melbourne Indymedia > > >-- > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >imc-melbourne-work mailing list > > >imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > > >http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work > > Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Click here for more. > _______________________________________________ > imc-melbourne-work mailing list > imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work > http://www.irene.org.au/ From mim at antimedia.net Mon May 5 02:43:52 2003 From: mim at antimedia.net (mim at antimedia.net) Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 12:43:52 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: request for article donation Message-ID: <1052102631.3eb5cfe802c6a@webmail.myspinach.org> ----- Forwarded message from "Rogers, Janak" ----- Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 11:34:10 +1000 From: "Rogers, Janak" Reply-To: j4rogers at students.latrobe.edu.au Subject: request for article donation To: mim at antimedia.net Dear Sir/Madam, I am writing to you on behalf of the La Trobe University Environment Action Collective to request donations of articles to the annual ?green? issue of the La Trobe student magazine, Rabelais. The Environment Action Collection is group of students from La Trobe University, Melbourne, with a common interest in environmental and social issues who organise events and disseminate information regarding these issues in and around the La Trobe University campus. Each year we have the opportunity of compiling and designing an issue of the Student Union funded publication with complete editorial control. For this year?s edition we are seeking donations of articles from established writers/publications relating to environmental and social and political issues, especially works of comment and analysis between eight hundred and one thousand words. It is an attempt to sophisticate the publication and have it appeal to an audience who are traditionally sceptical to the musings of student activists, and also to directly introduce our readers to writers and publications we consider important and of whom they may have heard little about. This will be of benefit to us both. The magazine will run 3000 copies and will surely be read by a greater number of people. This will no doubt introduce your work to a new audience and direct their interests towards your future publications. And it will help us more effectively enliven campus interest in the social, political and environmental issues of our time. Neither the collective nor any individuals involved receive any financial remuneration from this publication, nor with their involvement in the collective at any time. Any material you do donate which is included in the publication will be used in full, without any additions and with full credit to the writer and, where relevant, the publication. No work donated will be used again at any time nor in any other way than described above. Please direct your reply to enviro.src at latrobe.edu.au before May 16th 2003, as we have to submit the magazine to the printers by the 20th May. We would also appreciate any suggestions of any writers/publications that who may be interested in donating articles. Thankyou for your time, for any donation, and for your work that we greatly admire. Sincerely, Janak Rogers j4rogers at students.latrobe.edu.au ----- End forwarded message ----- From and at antimedia.net Tue May 6 01:39:01 2003 From: and at antimedia.net (and) Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 11:39:01 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: [noiioztalk] Fwd: Call for entries - REFUGEES Message-ID: <1052185141.3eb71235196d7@webmail.myspinach.org> ----- Forwarded message from "dr.woooo" ----- Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 09:14:53 +1000 From: "dr.woooo" Reply-To: noiioztalk at yahoogroups.com Subject: [noiioztalk] Fwd: Call for entries - REFUGEES To: NOIIOZTALK at YAHOOGROUPS.COM ----- Forwarded message from access news ----- Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 21:09:14 +1100 From: access news Reply-To: access news Subject: Call for entries To: >Please Pass around your networks > >Leeds Underground Film > > > >Call For Entries > > > >We have several events planned during the next months. > > > > * Refugee Film Festival- Deadline 30 May 2003 ?We are now accepting film >entries ,documentary and drama, all lenghts for Festival in conjuction >with the Refugee Council taking place at the end of June.Subject: >Refugees, Immigration, Human Rights etc. Enclose a page with production >and contact details ( no press packs), no entry fee, no entry form (by >submiting your film we understand that you are granting permission for >screening, we do not pay screening fees)* > > > >Format:VHS Pal preferably. > > > > > > > > * Been on a protest, demo, direct action and got it on on film? 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ----- End forwarded message ----- http://melbourne.indymedia.org http://www.irene.org.au/ From and at antimedia.net Tue May 6 08:23:54 2003 From: and at antimedia.net (and) Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 18:23:54 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] feature:spacestation closing down Message-ID: <1052209434.3eb7711af02bd@webmail.myspinach.org> as this relates to us i reckon it's pretty important to go up as a feature perhaps with some additions. what do people think? a The place that has generously hosted the Melbourne Indymedia collective over the last year and a half is closing down. Spacestation, an open access media lab at Irene Warehouse in Brunswick has been a space for people to realise their projects. From websites to campaigns, flyers, film nights, using it to support protests and actions, for media pranks, longer term projects, to people just dropping in to check their email.

This will leave Melbourne Indymedia without a phyical space to organise out of and a lot less computer access and resources. We're interested in the possibility of creating our very own Independent Media Centre but the task is a large one, requiring money, resources and a lot of energy. Please contact us if you are interested in the project.
The Spacestation media lab is closing down... From burnsinc2000 at hotmail.com Tue May 6 09:00:54 2003 From: burnsinc2000 at hotmail.com (L B) Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 09:00:54 +0000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Newsletter submissions. Message-ID: Hello everyone, The newsletter is going to go out tomorrow. If there's anything you think needs to be included in the newsletter, now's your chance. If there's anything you feel shouldn't be included, well, now's also your chance... Thinking caps on... now. LB _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From and at antimedia.net Tue May 6 10:21:18 2003 From: and at antimedia.net (and) Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 20:21:18 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] proposed:spacestation closing Message-ID: <1052216478.3eb78c9eadbaa@webmail.myspinach.org> as this relates to us i reckon it's pretty important to go up as a feature perhaps with some additions. what do people think? a The place that has generously hosted the Melbourne Indymedia collective over the last year and a half is closing down. Spacestation, an open access media lab at Irene Warehouse in Brunswick has been a space for people to realise their projects. From websites to campaigns, flyers, film nights, using it to support protests and actions, for media pranks, longer term projects, to people just dropping in to check their email.

This will leave Melbourne Indymedia without a phyical space to organise out of and a lot less computer access and resources. We're interested in the possibility of creating our very own Independent Media Centre but the task is a large one, requiring money, resources and a lot of energy. Please contact us if you are interested in the project.
The Spacestation media lab is closing down... From ira_tim at hotmail.com Wed May 7 03:05:37 2003 From: ira_tim at hotmail.com (tim ira) Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 03:05:37 +0000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] feature:spacestation closing down Message-ID: yeah it's a good idea _________________________________________________________________ Check out the Xtra gaming servers at http://xtramsn.co.nz/gaming ! From and at antimedia.net Wed May 7 07:16:50 2003 From: and at antimedia.net (and) Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 17:16:50 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: Fwd: Re: [N5M4 editorial] IMPORTANT: Next 5 Minutes 4 Editorial Discussion Document Message-ID: <1052291810.3eb8b2e2c0468@webmail.myspinach.org> ----- Forwarded message from s|a|m ----- Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 14:38:47 +1000 From: s|a|m Reply-To: sam at myspinach.org Subject: Fwd: Re: [N5M4 editorial] IMPORTANT: Next 5 Minutes 4 Editorial Discussion Document To: and at antimedia.net, fragments at va.com.au hey, you may be interested in this - esp the N5M connection with IMC :-) ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: [N5M4 editorial] IMPORTANT: Next 5 Minutes 4 Editorial Discussion Document Date: Tuesday 06 May 2003 17:05 From: "geert lovink" To: Thanks everyone in Amsterdam for that extensive list. I can't really say where my ideas fit in. I'll send them anyway. I would emphasize a few aspects that have changed since N5M3, Mach 1999. 1. The rise and rise of www.indymedia.org and IMC's. The link to N5M is clear to everyone. Still, the indymedia concept is in urgent need of public reflection and there are only few places where something like that can happen. What is the tension between the drive towards becoming a professional news medium and the open publishing principles? What are the merits of such a centralized web portal? Why not spit up and create a thousand new indymedia that no longer carry that name? What are the good and bad sides of 'branding' in the tactical media scene? N5M and tactical media are also brand names. The rise of weblogs in general has changed the Internet considerable over the past few years. I think it would be good if this would be discussed. 2. There may not be a 'public' anymore but there are huge mass movements these days, very much unlike early 1999. For many the 'multitudes' exist. They are not mere spectacle. What I missed in the program so far is theoretical reflection on the current global movements and a reference to all the debates around Empire (whatever you may think of that book...). Technologies of Empire is a topic that many would like to address but do not quite know how to do this because the Negri/Hardt discourse contains so little clues how to start thinking about networks, new media and media activism. 3. Kosovo, Afghanistan, Iraq. Directly after N5M4 we plunged in the Kosovo war and that event sort of made full circle with the current Iraq war. Debates over humanitarian interventionalism have raged over the years. However, the tactical media aspects inside these wars and conflicts haven't really changed all that much. What is the use of tactical media in times of war? More later, Geert Next 5 Minutes 4 : http://www.n5m.org _______________________________________________ N5M4editorial mailing list N5M4editorial at balie.nl https://mailman.balie.nl/listinfo/n5m4editorial ------------------------------------------------------- ----- End forwarded message ----- http://melbourne.indymedia.org http://www.irene.org.au/ From mim at antimedia.net Wed May 7 07:27:45 2003 From: mim at antimedia.net (mim at antimedia.net) Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 17:27:45 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: Attention Young Radio Makers Message-ID: <1052292465.3eb8b57125e9a@webmail.myspinach.org> ----- Forwarded message from Jacinta Walpole ----- Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 12:49:28 +1000 From: Jacinta Walpole Reply-To: Jacinta Walpole Subject: Attention Young Radio Makers To: "'mim at antimedia.net'" MEDIA ALERT Attention Young Radio makers Are you into making radio about new Australian music? AMRAP is looking for young Music Correspondents for the 2003 noise festival. What will happen? In October 2003, AMRAP (Australian Music Radio Airplay Project) will be putting Australia's best young radio makers + music lovers on the Australian airwaves as part of the noise festival. You could be paid to work at your community radio station as a Music Correspondent and produce three radio packages about new Australian music for broadcast in the noise festival. Stations involved in the project will also receive a participation fee. Submit an application now Details www.amrap.org email Jacinta: jwalpole at cbaa.org.au MOVE QUICK - deadline: 26 May, 2003 ----- End forwarded message ----- From vyule at mail.labyrinth.net.au Thu May 8 03:16:26 2003 From: vyule at mail.labyrinth.net.au (vyule at mail.labyrinth.net.au) Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 13:16:26 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] reply? Message-ID: Nik, Adam, Andrew, anyone get my mesaj? valerie y From andreaf at openchannel.org.au Thu May 1 05:01:11 2003 From: andreaf at openchannel.org.au (Andrea Foxworthy) Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 15:01:11 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] OPENChannel's Write Your Documentary Course -commencing soon. Message-ID: Press Release For Immediate Release 1/5/2003 Have you got a great idea for a documentary? Learn how to get it down on paper at OPENChannel's 'Write Your Documentary' course, commencing on May 20th, 2003. Do you have a burning desire to make a documentary, or have you come across an unusual story or an intriguing character that you would like to explore on film? Award winning Documentary writer and director, Dennis K Smith can teach you what you need to know to get started and how to develop your project . Making your idea sound original and compelling on the page is the first crucial step in securing finance. 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URL: http://lists.indymedia.org.au/pipermail/imc-melbourne-work/attachments/20030501/c3cfb822/attachment.htm From mok at connexus.net.au Thu May 1 02:41:25 2003 From: mok at connexus.net.au (Onnie Wilson) Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 12:41:25 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Whale Rider: film fundraiser Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 1621 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.indymedia.org.au/pipermail/imc-melbourne-work/attachments/20030501/f2e3a95b/attachment.bin From mim at antimedia.net Fri May 9 03:47:22 2003 From: mim at antimedia.net (mim at antimedia.net) Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 13:47:22 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: New premices Message-ID: <1052452042.3ebb24cabb55a@webmail.myspinach.org> ----- Forwarded message from Vivien ----- Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 13:35:47 +1000 From: Vivien Reply-To: Vivien Subject: New premices To: mim at antimedia.net I don't know if we can help but please get in contact. Ross House Association offers resources and assistance to small community and self help organisations. We have a five story building in Flinder's Lane which has some vacant space at the moment. Groups who are tenanted here have to share a set of values that means they are eligible for membership of the Association. I am sure Indymedia would have similar values and ways of working. There is a charge but how much depends on how big and resourced the group is. Anyway please contact me so we can discuss all the options. Vivien Routley ----- End forwarded message ----- From ira_tim at hotmail.com Fri May 9 04:01:12 2003 From: ira_tim at hotmail.com (tim ira) Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 04:01:12 +0000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: New premices Message-ID: this looks like a good opportunity. is anyone following it up? >From: mim at antimedia.net >Reply-To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au >To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au >Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: New premices >Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 13:47:22 +1000 > > > >----- Forwarded message from Vivien ----- > Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 13:35:47 +1000 > From: Vivien >Reply-To: Vivien > Subject: New premices > To: mim at antimedia.net > >I don't know if we can help but please get in contact. Ross House >Association offers resources and assistance to small community and self >help >organisations. We have a five story building in Flinder's Lane which has >some vacant space at the moment. > >Groups who are tenanted here have to share a set of values that means they >are eligible for membership of the Association. I am sure Indymedia would >have similar values and ways of working. There is a charge but how much >depends on how big and resourced the group is. > >Anyway please contact me so we can discuss all the options. > >Vivien Routley > > > >----- End forwarded message ----- > > > >_______________________________________________ >imc-melbourne-work mailing list >imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au >http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work _________________________________________________________________ Need more speed? Get Xtra Jetstream @ http://www.xtra.co.nz/products/0,,5803,00.html ! From and at antimedia.net Fri May 9 05:56:49 2003 From: and at antimedia.net (and) Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 15:56:49 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: New premices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1052459809.3ebb43214e650@webmail.myspinach.org> we talked a bit about a space at the meeting on tuesday. The problem seemed to be more one of people and energy to create it rather than one of money. I think we can cover the rent if we got $$ from global indymedia. I don't think it's worth sending the application off though if there are not people committed to making the space. I will not be here when spacestation packs up so won't be able to help out with any setting up of a space. If there are people who have time/energy to do it or can find people then i reckon it'd be great to do and really useful but i don't get that impression at the moment. a Quoting tim ira : > this looks like a good opportunity. is anyone following it up? > > > >From: mim at antimedia.net > >Reply-To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > >To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > >Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: New premices > >Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 13:47:22 +1000 > > > > > > > >----- Forwarded message from Vivien ----- > > Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 13:35:47 +1000 > > From: Vivien > >Reply-To: Vivien > > Subject: New premices > > To: mim at antimedia.net > > > >I don't know if we can help but please get in contact. Ross House > >Association offers resources and assistance to small community and self > >help > >organisations. We have a five story building in Flinder's Lane which has > >some vacant space at the moment. > > > >Groups who are tenanted here have to share a set of values that means > they > >are eligible for membership of the Association. I am sure Indymedia would > >have similar values and ways of working. There is a charge but how much > >depends on how big and resourced the group is. > > > >Anyway please contact me so we can discuss all the options. > > > >Vivien Routley > > > > > > > >----- End forwarded message ----- > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >imc-melbourne-work mailing list > >imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > >http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work > > _________________________________________________________________ > Need more speed? Get Xtra Jetstream @ > http://www.xtra.co.nz/products/0,,5803,00.html ! > > _______________________________________________ > imc-melbourne-work mailing list > imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work > http://melbourne.indymedia.org http://www.irene.org.au/ From vyule at mail.labyrinth.net.au Fri May 9 11:58:30 2003 From: vyule at mail.labyrinth.net.au (vyule at mail.labyrinth.net.au) Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 21:58:30 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] : Next 5 Minutes 4 Editorial Discussion Document In-Reply-To: <1052291810.3eb8b2e2c0468@webmail.myspinach.org> References: <1052291810.3eb8b2e2c0468@webmail.myspinach.org> Message-ID: >re- Comment on the remark below about the rise and rise of indymedia, - surely there must be others somewhere who can support and continue the valiant work that has been done by so few up to now in Melbourne, which has been so much valued world wide. is there no way to recruit? v >---- Forwarded message from s|a|m ----- > Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 14:38:47 +1000 > From: s|a|m >Reply-To: sam at myspinach.org > Subject: Fwd: Re: [N5M4 editorial] IMPORTANT: Next 5 Minutes 4 Editorial >Discussion Document > To: and at antimedia.net, fragments at va.com.au > >------ > >Subject: Re: [N5M4 editorial] IMPORTANT: Next 5 Minutes 4 Editorial Discussion >Document >Date: Tuesday 06 May 2003 17:05 >From: "geert lovink" >To: > >I would emphasize a few aspects that have changed since N5M3, Mach 1999. > >1. The rise and rise of www.indymedia.org and IMC's. The link to N5M is >clear to everyone. Still, the indymedia concept is in urgent need of public >reflection and there are only few places where something like that can >happen. What is the tension between the drive towards becoming a >professional news medium and the open publishing principles? What are the >merits of such a centralized web portal? Why not spit up and create a >thousand new indymedia that no longer carry that name? What are the good and >bad sides of 'branding' in the tactical media scene? N5M and tactical media >are also brand names. The rise of weblogs in general has changed the >Internet considerable over the past few years. I think it would be good if >this would be discussed. > >2. There may not be a 'public' anymore but there are huge mass movements >these days, very much unlike early 1999. For many the 'multitudes' exist. >They are not mere spectacle. What I missed in the program so far is >theoretical reflection on the current global movements and a reference to >all the debates around Empire (whatever you may think of that book...). >Technologies of Empire is a topic that many would like to address but do not >quite know how to do this because the Negri/Hardt discourse contains so >little clues how to start thinking about networks, new media and media >activism. > >3. Kosovo, Afghanistan, Iraq. Directly after N5M4 we plunged in the Kosovo >war and that event sort of made full circle with the current Iraq war. >Debates over humanitarian interventionalism have raged over the years. >However, the tactical media aspects inside these wars and conflicts haven't >really changed all that much. What is the use of tactical media in times of >war? > >More later, > >Geert > > >Next 5 Minutes 4 : http://www.n5m.org >_______________________________________________ >N5M4editorial mailing list >N5M4editorial at balie.nl >https://mailman.balie.nl/listinfo/n5m4editorial > >------------------------------------------------------- > > >----- End forwarded message ----- > > >http://melbourne.indymedia.org >http://www.irene.org.au/ >_______________________________________________ >imc-melbourne-work mailing list >imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au >http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work From marcusbrumer at hotmail.com Fri May 9 23:07:56 2003 From: marcusbrumer at hotmail.com (marcus brumer) Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 09:07:56 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: New premices Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.indymedia.org.au/pipermail/imc-melbourne-work/attachments/20030510/3a2ba7ca/attachment.htm From cheshirecat_7 at hotmail.com Sun May 11 02:37:38 2003 From: cheshirecat_7 at hotmail.com (Wednesday K) Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 02:37:38 +0000 Subject: Fw: [imc-melbourne-work] EDITED:proposed:spacestation closing Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.indymedia.org.au/pipermail/imc-melbourne-work/attachments/20030511/3d6dd3d7/attachment.htm From ira_tim at hotmail.com Sun May 11 08:35:27 2003 From: ira_tim at hotmail.com (tim ira) Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 08:35:27 +0000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Free Computers? Message-ID: not to sure if this is the right email list for this sort of stuff but here it is... I've just heard about a few organisation in Melbourne that donate computers to community groups. They are "Com.it" ( http://www.com-it.net.au/index.html ) and "Computer Bank" (http://www.computerbank.org.au/victoria/ ). Should I follow these up? Do we need anything at all, and if so, what? Any thoughts? Tim _________________________________________________________________ Download MSN Messenger @ http://messenger.xtramsn.co.nz - talk to family and friends overseas! From and at antimedia.net Sun May 11 09:40:01 2003 From: and at antimedia.net (and) Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 19:40:01 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: New premices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1052646001.3ebe1a714cbfb@webmail.myspinach.org> unfortunately i think ross house doesn't have cable internet and is still on dial up which would make things very difficult. I didn't gather that they were offering us free rent though. probably should write and find out. i like the idea of it remaining around irene if possible for the support/energy is might gather but that ofcourse is up to the people are prepared to do the work. a Quoting marcus brumer : > > Dear Indymedia people, > I would be happy to help set-up the space if a move is made. Ross House could > be could due to it's centrality and the offer to charge according to ability > to pay (at the moment nothing?). > Marcus > > > >From: and > >Reply-To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > >To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > >Subject: Re: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: New premices > >Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 15:56:49 +1000 > > > >we talked a bit about a space at the meeting on tuesday. The problem seemed > to > >be more one of people and energy to create it rather than one of money. I > >think we can cover the rent if we got $$ from global indymedia. I don't > think > >it's worth sending the application off though if there are not people > >committed to making the space. > >I will not be here when spacestation packs up so won't be able to help out > > >with any setting up of a space. > >If there are people who have time/energy to do it or can find people then i > > >reckon it'd be great to do and really useful but i don't get that impression > > >at the moment. > >a > > > > > >Quoting tim ira : > > > > > this looks like a good opportunity. is anyone following it up? > > > > > > > > > >From: mim at antimedia.net > > > >Reply-To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > > > >To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > > > >Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: New premices > > > >Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 13:47:22 +1000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Forwarded message from Vivien ----- > > > > Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 13:35:47 +1000 > > > > From: Vivien > > > >Reply-To: Vivien > > > > Subject: New premices > > > > To: mim at antimedia.net > > > > > > > >I don't know if we can help but please get in contact. Ross House > > > >Association offers resources and assistance to small community and self > > > > >help > > > >organisations. We have a five story building in Flinder's Lane which has > > > > >some vacant space at the moment. > > > > > > > >Groups who are tenanted here have to share a set of values that means > > > they > > > >are eligible for membership of the Association. I am sure Indymedia > would > > > >have similar values and ways of working. There is a charge but how much > > > > >depends on how big and resourced the group is. > > > > > > > >Anyway please contact me so we can discuss all the options. > > > > > > > >Vivien Routley > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- End forwarded message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >imc-melbourne-work mailing list > > > >imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > > > >http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Need more speed? Get Xtra Jetstream @ > > > http://www.xtra.co.nz/products/0,,5803,00.html ! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > imc-melbourne-work mailing list > > > imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > > > http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work > > > > > > > > >http://melbourne.indymedia.org > >http://www.irene.org.au/ > >_______________________________________________ > >imc-melbourne-work mailing list > >imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > >http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work > MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Find our > more. > _______________________________________________ > imc-melbourne-work mailing list > imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work > http://melbourne.indymedia.org http://www.irene.org.au/ From cassandradevine at yahoo.com Sun May 11 13:11:21 2003 From: cassandradevine at yahoo.com (Cassandra) Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 06:11:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: New premices In-Reply-To: <1052646001.3ebe1a714cbfb@webmail.myspinach.org> Message-ID: <20030511131121.92071.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> ummm... on a completely trivial note... has anyone else noticed 'premices' is really spelt 'premises'? (not to be all spelling nazi or anything :) cass --- and wrote: > unfortunately i think ross house doesn't have cable > internet and is still on > dial up which would make things very difficult. I > didn't gather that they were > offering us free rent though. probably should write > and find out. > i like the idea of it remaining around irene if > possible for the > support/energy is might gather but that ofcourse is > up to the people are > prepared to do the work. > a > > > Quoting marcus brumer : > > > > > Dear Indymedia people, > > I would be happy to help set-up the space if a > move is made. Ross House could > > be could due to it's centrality and the offer to > charge according to ability > > to pay (at the moment nothing?). > > Marcus > > > > > > >From: and > > >Reply-To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > > >To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > > >Subject: Re: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: New > premices > > >Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 15:56:49 +1000 > > > > > >we talked a bit about a space at the meeting on > tuesday. The problem seemed > > to > > >be more one of people and energy to create it > rather than one of money. I > > >think we can cover the rent if we got $$ from > global indymedia. I don't > > think > > >it's worth sending the application off though if > there are not people > > >committed to making the space. > > >I will not be here when spacestation packs up so > won't be able to help out > > > > >with any setting up of a space. > > >If there are people who have time/energy to do it > or can find people then i > > > > >reckon it'd be great to do and really useful but > i don't get that impression > > > > >at the moment. > > >a > > > > > > > > >Quoting tim ira : > > > > > > > this looks like a good opportunity. is anyone > following it up? > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: mim at antimedia.net > > > > >Reply-To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > > > > > >To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > > > > >Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: New > premices > > > > >Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 13:47:22 +1000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Forwarded message from Vivien ----- > > > > > Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 13:35:47 +1000 > > > > > From: Vivien > > > > >Reply-To: Vivien > > > > > Subject: New premices > > > > > To: mim at antimedia.net > > > > > > > > > >I don't know if we can help but please get in > contact. Ross House > > > > >Association offers resources and assistance > to small community and self > > > > > > >help > > > > >organisations. We have a five story building > in Flinder's Lane which has > > > > > > >some vacant space at the moment. > > > > > > > > > >Groups who are tenanted here have to share a > set of values that means > > > > they > > > > >are eligible for membership of the > Association. I am sure Indymedia > > would > > > > >have similar values and ways of working. > There is a charge but how much > > > > > > >depends on how big and resourced the group > is. > > > > > > > > > >Anyway please contact me so we can discuss > all the options. > > > > > > > > > >Vivien Routley > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- End forwarded message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > > >imc-melbourne-work mailing list > > > > >imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > > > > > >http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Need more speed? Get Xtra Jetstream @ > > > > http://www.xtra.co.nz/products/0,,5803,00.html > ! > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > imc-melbourne-work mailing list > > > > imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > > > > > http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://melbourne.indymedia.org > > >http://www.irene.org.au/ > > >_______________________________________________ > > >imc-melbourne-work mailing list > > >imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > > > >http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work > > > MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian > mobile phones. Find our > > more. > > _______________________________________________ > > imc-melbourne-work mailing list > > imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > > > http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work > > > > > http://melbourne.indymedia.org > http://www.irene.org.au/ > _______________________________________________ > imc-melbourne-work mailing list > imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From mim at antimedia.net Tue May 13 05:37:29 2003 From: mim at antimedia.net (mim at antimedia.net) Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 15:37:29 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: space station closing down Message-ID: <1052804248.3ec0849904237@webmail.myspinach.org> cool to get the offer. i would suggest the same prob (people/energy and no cable) exist as to ross house. central locations are good though. a ----- Forwarded message from NIBS ----- Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 15:01:18 +1000 From: NIBS Reply-To: NIBS Subject: space station closing down To: mim at antimedia.net In terms of spaces, have you thought of the area under Trades Hall, where the old Labour College was? It's pretty run down but if you approach Jacob (the building manager) they might be glad to have someone come in and fix it up. Just a thought. Jeff Sparrow Coordinator New International Book Co-operative Trades Hall Box 18 54 Victoria St Carlton Sth 3053 Mon-Fri 9am-6.30 pm Sat 11am-5pm tel 03 9662 3744 fax 03 9662 4755 www.nibs.org.au to receive regular updates about bookshop events, send a message to nib-announce-subscribe at yahoogroups.com The sweet smell of decaying paper appeals to me no longer. It is too closely associated in my mind with paranoiac customers and dead blue-bottles. George Orwell ----- End forwarded message ----- From and at antimedia.net Tue May 13 07:23:25 2003 From: and at antimedia.net (and) Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 17:23:25 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Free Computers? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1052810605.3ec09d6d52333@webmail.myspinach.org> I reckon they could be useful, even if it means having another computer for out the front of spacestation. those computeres are gunna continue being there after spacestation packs up and other groups are going to hopefully look after them. so if you get offered stuff, may as well take em. a Quoting tim ira : > not to sure if this is the right email list for this sort of stuff but here > > it is... > > I've just heard about a few organisation in Melbourne that donate computers > > to community groups. They are "Com.it" ( > http://www.com-it.net.au/index.html ) and "Computer Bank" > (http://www.computerbank.org.au/victoria/ ). Should I follow these up? Do we > > need anything at all, and if so, what? Any thoughts? > > Tim > > _________________________________________________________________ > Download MSN Messenger @ http://messenger.xtramsn.co.nz - talk to family > > and friends overseas! > > _______________________________________________ > imc-melbourne-work mailing list > imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work > http://melbourne.indymedia.org http://www.irene.org.au/ From marcusbrumer at hotmail.com Wed May 14 02:20:22 2003 From: marcusbrumer at hotmail.com (marcus brumer) Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 12:20:22 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: space station closing down Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.indymedia.org.au/pipermail/imc-melbourne-work/attachments/20030514/85f42842/attachment.htm From saltysal at webmail.co.za Tue May 13 14:05:17 2003 From: saltysal at webmail.co.za (sally harbison) Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 16:05:17 +0200 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Indy Media move Message-ID: <200305131405.h4DE5GN16153@mailgate.mailbox.co.za> I've got a Toyota Hiace which I can use to help move stuff. I prefer a weekend, and not around 4 -6 June (all my assignments due then). Sally H _______________________________________________________________________ Cool Connection, Cool Price, Internet Access for R59 monthly @ WebMail http://www.webmail.co.za/dialup/ From mim at antimedia.net Wed May 14 06:15:30 2003 From: mim at antimedia.net (mim at antimedia.net) Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 16:15:30 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: [Irene-events] upcoming gigs at irene! Message-ID: <1052892930.3ec1df0246218@webmail.myspinach.org> ----- Forwarded message from =alex= ----- Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 03:35:59 +0200 From: =alex= Reply-To: =alex= Subject: [Irene-events] upcoming gigs at irene! To: irene-events at lists.myspinach.org Irene community Arts Warehouse - 5 Pitt Street, Brunswick http://www.irene.org.au welcome to the irene-events list - to keep you up to date with all the spunky, entertaining and inspiring gigs at irene... tell all your friends and see you soon! --------------------------------------------------------------------- Disobbedienti Film Screening 7pm Sunday 18 May Based on seven interviews, this film offers a detailed if uncritical look at the emergence of Italy's Disobbedienti / Tute Bianche / Ya Basta during the nineties. Also sets out in detail some of the movement's views about the changing nature of anti-capitalist struggle. Come along for a big screen viewing, followed by discussion, tea and coffee. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Resolution screening Thursday 22nd May 8pm remix cinema activist porn codec catastrophes experimental motion pixels *the second in what promises to be a spunky and entertaining eveing of visual delights..... --------------------------------------------------------------------- EVERY WEEK: Irene meeting - every monday @ 8pm (dinner at 7pm) Chi Gung, Kungfu, Acrobalance, Jiujitsu classes - contact Suspended Food not bombs street kitchen preparation Mon + Tues upstairs Barricade books open everyday EVERY FORTNIGHT Tuesdays Indymedia melbourne meeting 6.30pm Wednesdays Barricade books meeting 6.30pm - call 93876646 in advance --------------------------------------------------------------------- All the groups at Irene, including Irene herself, welcome the involvement of more volunteers - so don't be shy!! Plus a few more studio spaces available for rent - so come and check em out!! --------------------------------------------------------------------- to subscribe to irene-events send an email to: irene-events-subscribe at lists.myspinach.org _______________________________________________ Irene-events mailing list Irene-events at lists.myspinach.org http://lists.myspinach.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/irene-events ----- End forwarded message ----- From and at antimedia.net Thu May 15 02:26:01 2003 From: and at antimedia.net (and) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 12:26:01 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Writing for Social Change: a roundtable discussion Message-ID: <1052965561.3ec2fab9a5a34@webmail.myspinach.org> hey be good if other indy folks came and participated in this. if people have ideas of points i should raise, tell me. unfortunately it seems to cost $5 to get in which is a bit crap. maybe we can scam something at the door. a Writing for Social Change: a roundtable discussion Thursday 22 May from 6.30 ? 8.30 pm Victorian Writers? Centre 1st floor, Nicholas Building 37 Swanston St, Melbourne Writing for Social Change will be a moderated discussion on the issues facing those that seek to provoke and promote a critical view of society. This may cover how writers (both here and overseas) get their works published (or not) and what happens when they do; how editors of magazines select and promote issues/writers that challenge ideas of both a conservative and progressive nature; how those working to offer new ideas can find new audiences (and how to combat the commercial nature of most media); and a discussion of alternative models to disseminate ideas pertaining to issues that affect society. During this event the moderator will promote a discussion of the issues with the invited participants and audience as well. The roundtable participants include Guy Rundle (Arena magazine), Nathan Hollier and Kath Wilson (Overland magazine), Pio (poet), Judith Rodriguez (International PEN), Andrea James (Melbourne Workers Theatre), Andrew (Indymedia), Anne Demant (FOE) and Tabatha Fulker (The Paper). There?ll be room for about another 40 people sitting (and a fair few more if they?re happy to stand or sit on the ground!). This is a free event for members of the Centre and will cost $5 for others. Please call the Centre for more information on (03) 9654 9068. From and at antimedia.net Mon May 19 03:03:11 2003 From: and at antimedia.net (and) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 13:03:11 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: [spacekids] Fwd: Closing? Message-ID: <1053313391.3ec8496fe2723@webmail.myspinach.org> ----- Forwarded message from spacekids at myspinach.org ----- Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 11:38:18 +1000 From: spacekids at myspinach.org Reply-To: spacekids at lists.myspinach.org Subject: [spacekids] Fwd: Closing? To: spacekids at lists.myspinach.org ----- Forwarded message from Mike R ----- Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 00:48:21 -0400 From: Mike R Reply-To: Mike R Subject: Closing? To: spacekids at myspinach.org Hey spacekids, I'm looking into IMC related spaces that have been closed down or are closing for a possible feature on indymedia.org. I noticed on the melbourne.indymedia site that spacestation is closing, but I couldn't find anything on either their site or yours as to why. In the past few weeks sites have been closed for reasons ranging from building code violations (ucimc, usa) to too much website traffic (athens imc, greece) to alleged threat of violent protest (stlimc, usa). I'd be interested to hear why you are closing. I hope it is nothing as insidious as the other imcs. -- Mike Rosenberg PhillyIMC.org ----- End forwarded message ----- _______________________________________________ Spacekids mailing list Spacekids at lists.myspinach.org http://lists.myspinach.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/spacekids ----- End forwarded message ----- http://melbourne.indymedia.org http://www.irene.org.au/ From mim at antimedia.net Mon May 19 05:55:14 2003 From: mim at antimedia.net (mim at antimedia.net) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 15:55:14 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: racism in sport Message-ID: <1053323714.3ec871c267e17@webmail.myspinach.org> sorry, forgot to get around to sending this. has to be one of the wierder requests we have recieved. I personally don't think it's worth coming up with a collective position on the Darren Lehmann sledging incident. quite bizarre. a ----- Forwarded message from jayde lovell ----- Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 12:54:43 +1000 From: jayde lovell Reply-To: jayde lovell Subject: racism in sport To: mim at antimedia.net To whom it may concern, My name is Jayde Lovell, and I am 16 years old, living in Victoria, Australia. I am currently in Year 12, and I am doing a project about racism in sport, with particular focus on the Darren Lehmann incident in January 2003. During an International cricket match, Darren Lehmann made a racial slur against his Sri Lankan opponents, and was consequently suspended for 5 matches. As part of this project, I am seeking statements from organizations from both sides of this issue, and I would like to include a statement from your organization. All I need from you is the opinion of your organization on this matter, whether you think racism is a problem in sport, what you think should be done about racism is sport, and what you think of Mr Lehmann?s punishment. Thank you for your time,Jayde Lovell Jayde MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Find our more. ----- End forwarded message ----- From marcusbrumer at hotmail.com Tue May 20 02:09:34 2003 From: marcusbrumer at hotmail.com (marcus brumer) Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 12:09:34 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: request for article donation Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.indymedia.org.au/pipermail/imc-melbourne-work/attachments/20030520/1d19f03a/attachment.htm From and at antimedia.net Tue May 20 02:44:54 2003 From: and at antimedia.net (and) Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 12:44:54 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: request for article donation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1053398694.3ec996a69016e@webmail.myspinach.org> hey, spacestation is closing due to lack of money, energy, direction and people to keep it runnning. that's the breif version. irene isn't closing. spacestation and the paper and the video lab etc have cable net access and there is also a server here for the network which is a very useful resource. sorry to not get back to you. i thought someone esle might pipe up, snowed under with too much email. a Quoting marcus brumer : > > Dear Indymedia people, > Excuse my ignorance but what is the reason that Spacestation is closing? Is > Irene closing? > Also, I asked previously if Spacestation had cable connection for internet. > Could someone be so kind as to answer my questions? > Marcus > > > > ninemsn Extra Storage is now available. Get five times more storage - 10MB in > your Hotmail account Sign up now. > _______________________________________________ > imc-melbourne-work mailing list > imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work > http://melbourne.indymedia.org http://www.irene.org.au/ From and at antimedia.net Tue May 20 02:45:33 2003 From: and at antimedia.net (and) Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 12:45:33 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] meeting tonight (tues) Message-ID: <1053398733.3ec996cda84cd@webmail.myspinach.org> late reminder, 6.30pm at irene. a From cassandradevine at yahoo.com Tue May 20 05:18:22 2003 From: cassandradevine at yahoo.com (Cassandra) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 22:18:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] meeting tonight (tues) In-Reply-To: <1053398733.3ec996cda84cd@webmail.myspinach.org> Message-ID: <20030520051822.1384.qmail@web13805.mail.yahoo.com> yup, ill be there for about half an hour and wanting to talk to ppls about a protest feature im writing up for a uni assignment cheers cass and wrote: late reminder, 6.30pm at irene. a _______________________________________________ imc-melbourne-work mailing list imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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URL: http://lists.indymedia.org.au/pipermail/imc-melbourne-work/attachments/20030519/06ac7c0e/attachment.htm From cassandradevine at yahoo.com Tue May 20 09:13:51 2003 From: cassandradevine at yahoo.com (Cassandra) Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 02:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] apologies In-Reply-To: <20030520051822.1384.qmail@web13805.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030520091351.68986.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com> sorry guys- it was pouring down with rain and i was wearing sandals, so i didnt want to ride my bike down lygon st (wet dark muddy etc.) anyway, ill probably come round tomorrow arvo to see how the packing is going :) cheers cassandra ssandra wrote: yup, ill be there for about half an hour and wanting to talk to ppls about a protest feature im writing up for a uni assignment cheers cass and wrote: late reminder, 6.30pm at irene. a _______________________________________________ imc-melbourne-work mailing list imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.indymedia.org.au/pipermail/imc-melbourne-work/attachments/20030520/2a4378b5/attachment.htm From ira_tim at hotmail.com Tue May 20 10:26:28 2003 From: ira_tim at hotmail.com (tim ira) Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 10:26:28 +0000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] May 20th Indymedia meeting - Minutes Message-ID: Present: Andrew, Nigel, Tim, Sophia, Takver, Chris, Scott and Anna Agenda: Geek Bee: Not much happen during the weekend. Nigel and Dave are going to met up this weekend to sort out some things. Spacestaion Issues: It's closing down on the 6th or 7th of July so we will either have move to a new site or sort out a new space at Irenes. Ross House and Trades Hall also have space available = Sophia offered to check out one (or both of these?). Our requirements for a space are low rent and cable access - maybe also after hours access. Sophia, Nigel, Tim (and Adam previously) have expressed interest in working through this issue. Funding Application to the international Indymedia funding organisation is on-hold until a solid choice has been made - US$1000-$2000 grant expected if application is accepted. RRR radio slot: Every three or so weeks Nick has done a 15 minute telephone interview with RRR. He now has other commitments and scott has offered to take up the slot. Writing for Social Change Forum: It's on this thursday, 22 May 6:30pm - 8:30pm 1st Floor of 37 Swanston Street. Andrew will be on a panel of speakers. Organised by Victorian Writers Centre -free but it would be appreciated if you expressed interest in advance by contacting them on 96549068. 3CR Radio, Syn FM and PBS: People were wondering if the 3CR radio slot is still happening. Adam if you are still doing it let us know as people seem to be willing to take on more radio slots. Tim has expressed interest in following up the Syn FM slot. Chris has offered to explore the possibility of having some indymedia content on PBS. That's all. :0) Tim _________________________________________________________________ Gaming galore at http://xtramsn.co.nz/gaming ! From and at antimedia.net Wed May 21 00:29:03 2003 From: and at antimedia.net (and) Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 10:29:03 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] apologies In-Reply-To: <20030520091351.68986.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030520091351.68986.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1053476943.3ecac84fcde3b@webmail.myspinach.org> > anyway, ill probably come round tomorrow arvo to see how the packing is going packing? spacestation doesn't pack up will the beginning of july. a > :) > cheers > cassandra > > ssandra wrote: > yup, ill be there for about half an hour and wanting to talk to ppls about a > protest feature im writing up for a uni assignment > cheers > cass > > and wrote: > late reminder, 6.30pm at irene. > a > _______________________________________________ > imc-melbourne-work mailing list > imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://melbourne.indymedia.org http://www.irene.org.au/ From and at antimedia.net Sat May 24 05:04:27 2003 From: and at antimedia.net (and) Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 15:04:27 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Can Internet technology still revolutionize activism? Message-ID: <1053752667.3ecefd5bd2f73@webmail.myspinach.org> got this off the US pga list. has 4/5 paras about "woomera as a successfull example of net activism" in relation to indymedia. get a few of their facts wrong and don't agree altogether with it, but interesting i guess that someone thought it was worth writing about. a 'In sum, we are an army of dreamers, and therefore invincible. How can we fail to win, with this imagination overturning everything. Or rather, we do not deserve to lose.' - Subcomandante Marcos Can Internet technology still revolutionize activism? >------------------------------------------------------------ >DIGITAL FREEDOM NETWORK: Human rights and cyber-rights news >------------------------------------------------------------ > >http://www.dfn.org/workshop/elect-act.htm > >Can Internet technology still revolutionize activism? > >By Robert Lebowitz, Digital Freedom Network > >(March 15, 2003) One of the biggest promises of the Internet >was the transformation of political activism. No longer >would change come about solely through the actions of large >organizations, claimed the Web's early enthusiasts. Now, >they claimed, individuals could rouse the concern of their >fellow citizens for a particular cause through Web sites, >e-mail, and online petitions. Those who normally shunned >demonstrations and limited their participation in the public >sphere could be contacted personally in their e-mail box, >and all that would be necessary for them to do to show their >support would be to click a button or fill in a field. Soon, >pundits predicted, there would be a revolution in grassroots >participation in the political process. > >Now, several years after these enthusiastic pronouncements, >there has been a reconsideration of the effectiveness of >online activism. Although the World Wide Web is still in its >infancy, sufficient time has passed for those involved in >electronic activism to reflect upon the basic questions >underlying their work: Has the Internet really increased >participation in the political process? Have mass e-mailings >really had a significant impact on decision-makers? Will the >Internet decrease the importance of affiliation with parties >and organizations and increase the impact of the individual? > > >E-mail petitions > >E-mail petitions have been repeatedly skewered for their >impracticality. Superficially, they seem to be an >improvement on traditional petitions that are taken from >door to door or signed in a public square, since they can >reach exponentially more people with much less effort. > >However, many have pointed out that the e-mail petition is >flawed by its very design. Each person who signs the >petition will be adding his or her name to a list of names >that will then be presumably forwarded to several friends or >acquaintances. Each of those recipients will then add their >names to the list and mail them out to others. The result >will be that, in fact, the original e-mail petition will >actually be split into several lists, which will then split >into even more lists. Were the originator of the petition >then to try and count the number of people who signed the >original list, he or she will have to sift through >potentially thousands of duplicate signatures. > >E-mail petitions inherently carry other problems that >jeopardize their value. The opportunity for forgery looms >large; it is very easy to cut and paste names from >whitepages.com to an e-mail petition. Additionally, affixing >one's name to an e-mail petition requires much less effort >and allows for much more anonymity than signing a real >petition. For these reasons, politicians are inclined to >treat the dedication and commitment -- as well as the very >existence -- of the signers as dubious. > >A recent example of the fallibility of e-mail petitions is >that of a recent electronic campaign to save Amina Lawal, a >Nigerian woman condemned to death by stoning for the crime >of having a child out of wedlock. An e-mail petition falsely >bearing the logo of Amnesty International was disseminated >to protest the execution of Lawal, erroneously claiming that >it was to occur on June 3. The well-intentioned wave of >e-mail responses -- which ranged from Nottingham, England, >to Beirut, Lebanon, to Washington D.C. -- alarmed the >Nigerian-based women rights groups most directly involved >with the aspects of Lawal's case. Their concern was that >these petitions would hasten Lawal's execution, as those >subscribing to the implementation of Sharia law in this >matter would fear that foreign, non-Muslim supporters of >Lawal were about to intervene and thus take pre-emptive >action. > >A number of scholars of electronic activism, such as author >Howard Rheingold, who discusses how communication and >computing technologies amplify human talents for cooperation >in his recent book Smart Mobs: The Next Social Revolution, >are duly skeptical of such e-mail petitions. > >"[They are] either urban legends or ineffectual," said >Rheingold in an e-mail interview with the Digital Freedom >Network. > >"Does anybody who actually works with human rights issues >believe that an e-mail petition would have changed the >Taliban's treatment of women? They can be effective only if >they include the real names and addresses of the petitioners >and are delivered by an effective lobbying organization. >Even more effective are electronic calls to action that >enable people to call or write their Congressional >representatives about specific legislation." > >A study by OMB Watch, a nonprofit group focusing on >activities at the US Office of Management and Budget (OMB), >concurs with Rheingold's observation. "Most [US] >Congressional offices give the most weight to personal >letters, followed by [in descending order of priority] >personal visits, telephone calls, faxes, personal e-mails, >paper petitions, form letters, postcards and form e-mail." > > >Web-based petitions > >Web-based petitions have received a somewhat more favorable >evaluation. Petitions posted on a Web site allow the reader >more time to absorb the information and issues. There is >also more initiative involved, since the signer actively >logs onto the site rather than passively receiving an e-mail >in his inbox. As a result, Web-based petitions are utilized >more in the activist world. > >Web sites like e.thePeople, ThePetitionSite, and >PetitionOnline offer the ability for activists to post a >petition and then have others come to the site to sign it. >According to the "Five Myths of Online Activism" report on >the e.thePeople Web site, a poll of petition-writers >revealed that 24 percent of petitions received some sort of >response. "While most letter- and petition-writers report no >tangible results," the report states, "to say that they are >never successful is an overstatement." > >In a similar vein, US Senator Dianne Feinstein's >communications director said in a recent article that any >online petition sent to Senator Feinstein "does get >addressed," while admitting that a personal letter is "more >meaningful." > > >The Internet as a tool for mobilization > >If online and e-mail petitions boast only a modest success >rate, it appears that their great contribution to electronic >activism is their capacity for mobilization. Numerous >examples abound of the Internet's surprising ability to "get >the word out" of dates and times of organized protests, >demonstrations, and coordinated activities. > >Groups like Stand for Children rely upon the Internet to >organize protests and demonstrations of solidarity. Stand >for Children organized a variety of diverse activities to >draw attention to a dearth of proper health insurance for >children in the United States. These activities included >planting flowers in Boise, Idaho, singing songs on the steps >of the Arkansas State Capitol, and ringing church bells at a >designated time throughout Grass Valley, California. > >As these activities were spread out over the entire country, >it was imperative to find a way of unifying and coordinating >them so as to broadcast a central message. For this purpose, >the Internet was used as a tool to give those involved in >each event a sense of being part of the larger whole. > >"The Internet is the glue that [held] these local events >together," said Jonah Edelman, executive director of Stand >for Children, in an article discussing the mass >demonstration. > >And yet, for all such examples of successful use of the >Internet for mobilization, there are others who still >believe in an even more ambitious role for the Internet in >political activism. > > >Virtual sit-ins > >In recent years, activists have emulated the protests of the >1960s by participating in "virtual sit-ins." Here, people >are notified via e-mail to boycott a particular Web site or, >more frequently, to disable it by flooding it with e-mail >messages. > >The Electronic Disturbance Theater (EDT) is a New York-based >group whose virtual sit-ins have been effective, as well as >controversial, tools of electronic protest. EDT -- which >describes itself as "working at the intersections of radical >politics, recombinant and performance art, and computer >software design" -- makes available to the public FloodNet, >software used to flood and block an opponent's Web site. >FloodNet operates by sending an automatic reload request >every few seconds to the targeted Web site. With thousands >of such requests, that Web site is overloaded for the day >and access to it is blocked. > >EDT has used FloodNet in various campaigns, including a 1998 >virtual sit-in in support of the Mexican Zapatista rebels at >the Web sites of the Pentagon, the Federal Communications >Commission, the Frankfurt Stock Exchange, Mexican President >Ernesto Zedillo, and the School of the Americas. More >recently, EDT organized a protest against the World Economic >Forum (WEF) in January, 2002. One hundred and sixty thousand >people downloaded FloodNet from the EDT Web site and then >went online to deluge the WEF Web site with hits. After only >a few hours, the site collapsed and remained down for the >rest of the week. > >Roberto Dominguez, co-founder of EDT, has maintained that >the goal of his organization is not to shut down a Web site >-- which can be construed as hacking and therefore >punishable by law -- but rather "to disturb." > >EDT's actions have drawn criticism, however, even from those >in the activist and hacker communities. Some have blasted >EDT's radical methods as stifling free speech, while others >have questioned what message disabling a site sends to a >public that would have no idea why a particular site was >disabled. > > >A case study in e-activism: Woomera2002 > >However, the right combination of innovative Internet >technology and careful on-line and off-line coordination can >make a powerful statement and effect great change. > >One noted example is Woomera2002. > >On March 28, 2002, over 1,000 activists converged on a >wind-swept patch of the Australian desert outside the >Woomera Refugee Camp. They had come from throughout >Australia as well as Japan and England to protest the >government's harsh confinement of asylum seekers who had >arrived on Australia's shores without proper documentation. >In previous months, the conditions for those incarcerated at >Woomera -- many of them of Afghani descent fleeing the chaos >of their homeland -- had become markedly worse: prisoners >had sewn their lips together in hunger strikes and had >thrown themselves in desperation upon razor wire-topped >fences. > >Activists encamped in the Outback for days, drawing media >attention as they engaged in loud demonstrations and tore >down fences of the detention center, helping several dozen >refugees escape. While escapees were recaptured, the world's >attention upon Australia's treatment of refugees remained >steady in the months following Woomera2002. In April, the >Woomera Detention Centre was permanently closed, even though >Australian Minister of Immigration Paul Ruddock claimed that >his decision to close the facility was of a purely >managerial nature, made possible by lower numbers of >detainees. > >What was unique about Woomera2002 was not that its goal of >stopping the abuse at the Woomera Detention Center was >achieved, but rather that its coordinators made particularly >effective use of Internet technology to arrange the event >and to publicize it. > >Various groups had electronically networked with each other >prior to the event to arrange to meet in the desert near the >detention center. As the event got underway, computers were >rigged up in a truck at the protest camp and an Independent >Media Centre, which acted as a clearinghouse of articles, >photos, and opinions, was quickly constructed. First hand >accounts, links to mainstream news, transcripts of audio >links and analysis were posted unaltered by editors or >spin-doctors. > >"You didn't have to wait for the seven o'clock news and wait >for it to go through all the corporate filters," recalled >one participant. > >Coordinators also employed innovative Internet technology to >increase world attention on the event. The Phone Indymedia >Patch System (PIMP) allowed people to use a telephone to >leave voice messages in the form of an MP3 file on the >Indymedia site. Activists in Woomera2002 along with >prisoners from behind the detention center's walls and >escapees left messages using PIMP on the indymedia site. >Additionally, the online Virtual People Smuggler (VPS) >allowed supporters who were unable to attend Woomera2002 to >send messages of solidarity to the protestors. Throughout >Woomera2002, the Indymedia site allowed those logging in to >get an immediate glimpse of what was transpiring "on the >ground," which was glaringly different from the >sensationalized mainstream news reports of the event. > >Woomera2002 was an example of a successful online campaign. >It used innovative Internet technology to greatly amplify >the effects of the protest and involve people >internationally. Its broadcasting was fast and fluid, >favoring large quantities of uncensored information produced >by a large group of people rather than carefully constructed >news feeds written by a select few. And, perhaps most >importantly, all the online activity was simultaneously >mirrored by real-world, grassroots protests with concrete >results. > > >Real world first, then virtual > >Hillary Naylor is unequivocal that this last point is the >key to successful Internet activism. As Education Program >Manager at CompuMentor, an organization that advises NGOs on >how to effectively use technology, as well as online >volunteer network coordinator at Amnesty International, >Naylor has been involved with a number of Internet-based >activist campaigns. From her experience, Naylor writes that >"online advocacy (e-mails, petitions,etc.) can only be an >adjunct to the off-line strategies (letter writing, visits, >town halls, newspaper editorials, etc.)." > >In an interview with the Digital Freedom Network, Naylor >stressed the necessity of personal contact. She pointed out >that for a while now, politicians have been unresponsive to >e-mails that come en masse with the same subject heading. >"It is important that people personalize the subject heading >of their e-mail," Naylor said. "[But] if you ask people to >send e-mail, you should also arrange for them to visit the >congressperson's office." > >In the same vein, Naylor rejects the idea that e-mail >campaigns will become more powerful as more business is done >electronically. > >"The personal effect will always be the strongest," she >noted. > >Kevin Reid echoes Naylor's viewpoint. As online organizer >for Amnesty International, Reid has overseen many of >Amnesty's online campaigns. Recent successes include >Amnesty's "Clean Diamond" campaign, where concerned >individuals were asked to forward an animated Flash cartoon >that depicted the path of a diamond from the time it is >mined by abused and exploited workers in Sierra Leone to the >time it reaches the ring finger of an American bride-to-be. >The cartoon ends with a message urging the viewer to writer >his or her member of Congress to support legislation that >bans the sale of diamonds that were mined under such brutal >conditions and which produce revenue for armies to purchase >weapons to wage war against civilians and commit egregious >human rights abuses, including rape, amputation and the use >of child soldiers. > >The cartoon passed through thousands of e-mail boxes, >resulting in e-mails, letters, and calls. In April, the >Clean Diamond Trade Act passed through both the Senate and >the House of Representatives, ensuring that diamonds >entering America come from legal sources. > >Yet for all such examples of Amnesty's successful use of the >Internet in their campaigns, Reid also maintains that >"e-mails are only a first step." > >"We want people to move beyond that," he told DFN. "We want >people to get out and join real groups where they live and >join with others who are also interested in campaigning for >the cause in which they are interested. We don't want >armchair activists." > >Sociologists have pointed out that only very rarely can >individuals be mobilized through "moral shock," an effect >aimed for by action alerts, electronic petitions, and >virtual sit-ins. Rather, successful activist campaign which >employ Internet technology build upon pre-existing networks >which were first built from face-to-face interactions. To >reach a high degree of success, today's political activism >must artfully blend Internet technology with the spark of >engagement produced by a human encounter. > >---------------------------------------------------------- >Copyright (c) 2003 Digital Freedom Network (www.dfn.org). >---------------------------------------------------------- > From and at antimedia.net Sun May 25 02:02:51 2003 From: and at antimedia.net (and) Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 12:02:51 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] hits Message-ID: <1053828171.3ed0244b1a72d@webmail.myspinach.org> interesting to note that visits quadrupled when we got a feature up on indymedia.org. normally we get around 12-1600 visits a day, we got around 4800 yesterday. i'm not sure how much "visits" relates to actual users/people coming to the site. dave? also wondering if when people are looking at the site at melbimc.nomasters.org if this is being recorded in our hits? the rdf is still outputting as melbimc and there are lots of others that would be good to change. a From and at antimedia.net Sun May 25 08:28:16 2003 From: and at antimedia.net (and) Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 18:28:16 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: [spacekids] Fwd: Thanks! Message-ID: <1053851296.3ed07ea0ee18c@webmail.myspinach.org> ----- Forwarded message from spacekids at myspinach.org ----- Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 17:09:24 +1000 From: spacekids at myspinach.org Reply-To: spacekids at lists.myspinach.org Subject: [spacekids] Fwd: Thanks! To: spacekids at lists.myspinach.org ----- Forwarded message from Shame Macgowan ----- Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 13:49:41 +1000 (EST) From: Shame Macgowan Reply-To: Shame Macgowan Subject: Thanks! To: spacekids at myspinach.org Hi spacegang. I was very sorry to read at http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2003/05/47197_comment.php#47214 you guys are closing down. The most disapointing thing for me is that I live right next door to Irene but I never really used the space much... I wanted to say I think melbourne is worse off without you guys, and (belated) thanks for the year and a half of time and energy (and money) you put into this project. I hope it doesnt seem like people dont appreciate all the effort you folks have put into this project - coz I for one do. Maya PS - by the way, I know its been running for a while but I reckon the "new" melbourne.indymedia sites looking nice. You can never have too much white space. I think you've pretty much struck a good balance with how you deal with trolling, nuisance stuff & so on. Ive heard MIM get a bit of unfair (in my view) flack about this, so just thought i'd share my opinion. Somewhere in the archives there's a radio broadcast wherein a heated altercation between Noel Hill of the venerable folk band Planxty and several Pogues ensues. It apparently began with Hill's assertion that The Pogues were "a terrible abortion of Irish music" and quickly slid downhill. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mobile - Check & compose your email via SMS on your Telstra or Vodafone mobile. ----- End forwarded message ----- ----- End forwarded message ----- http://melbourne.indymedia.org http://www.irene.org.au/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.indymedia.org.au/pipermail/imc-melbourne-work/attachments/20030525/7beaf142/attachment.htm From stryx7 at yahoo.com Mon May 26 10:54:33 2003 From: stryx7 at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sophia=20Divvenuto?=) Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 11:54:33 +0100 (BST) Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] imc new space? an idea In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030526105433.53380.qmail@web41114.mail.yahoo.com> hi well Im just wondering what you all think about this idea, as far as new IMC space goes. At access news we would benifit from having a work space for what we do, and I recon if IMC and access news open anew office together (@Irene?) it would be a good thing. Becaose there will be more people to pay the rent and source new equipment and it would be really good to have a strong independant media workspace. We just had a.news meeting now and people here are really up for it. We were thinkig for it not to be an open access area, but really just for the producers of imc and access news and other news productions.. i hope this is making some sense as weve been having a meeting for HOURS...so yeah..whaddya recon of that? I have not been in touch with Ross house yet but will be tommorow. cheers SophiaXX __________________________________________________ It's Samaritans' Week. Help Samaritans help others. Call 08709 000032 to give or donate online now at http://www.samaritans.org/support/donations.shtm From ira_tim at hotmail.com Mon May 26 15:37:10 2003 From: ira_tim at hotmail.com (tim ira) Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 15:37:10 +0000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] imc new space? an idea Message-ID: Just though I'd let you know that a member of the greens who came to visit on sunday has access to unlimited very high speed internet for free through family connections. He has proposed placing a microwave dish on the roof of Irenes to see if he can make a direct microwave connection with his house a few blocks away so we could use his internet for free - which would be damn fine. He also said he would drop around two nice computers that his work had lying about. Hopefully he comes through with his offers, but he might not. I'll check it out and get back to ya. Tim >From: Sophia Divvenuto >Reply-To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au >To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au >Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] imc new space? an idea >Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 11:54:33 +0100 (BST) > >hi >well Im just wondering what you all think about this >idea, as far as new IMC space goes. >At access news we would benifit from having a work >space for what we do, and I recon if IMC and access >news open anew office together (@Irene?) it would be a >good thing. Becaose there will be more people to pay >the rent and source new equipment and it would be >really good to have a strong independant media >workspace. >We just had a.news meeting now and people here are >really up for it. We were thinkig for it not to be an >open access area, but really just for the producers of >imc and access news and other news productions.. >i hope this is making some sense as weve been having a >meeting for HOURS...so yeah..whaddya recon of that? >I have not been in touch with Ross house yet but will >be tommorow. >cheers >SophiaXX > >__________________________________________________ >It's Samaritans' Week. Help Samaritans help others. >Call 08709 000032 to give or donate online now at >http://www.samaritans.org/support/donations.shtm >_______________________________________________ >imc-melbourne-work mailing list >imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au >http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work _________________________________________________________________ Surf the net and talk on the phone with Xtra Jetstream @ http://www.xtra.co.nz/products/0,,5803,00.html ! From changeling_au at angelfire.com Tue May 27 00:26:37 2003 From: changeling_au at angelfire.com (Zaphod Beeblebrox) Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 10:26:37 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Re: imc-melbourne-work digest, Vol 1 #571 - 2 msgs Message-ID: It's OK Sophia - you're making perfect sense - amazing what matchsticks can achieve. :) I think it's an excellent idea - it's a good time to get alternative media services sharing resources. We should discuss it in detail at the next meeting. Interesting idea about the microwave link Tim. By one of those bizarre space/time continuum synchronicity things, I was discussing exactly that idea with Dave on Sunday. There is more info on this growing underground community at I hope to get involved with this group soon. If it's as good as it seems, we should probably get involved as well. All the best, ZB -- On Tue, 27 May 2003 06:52:38 imc-melbourne-work-request wrote: >Send imc-melbourne-work mailing list submissions to > imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > imc-melbourne-work-request at lists.cat.org.au > >You can reach the person managing the list at > imc-melbourne-work-admin at lists.cat.org.au > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of imc-melbourne-work digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. imc new space? an idea (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sophia=20Divvenuto?=) > 2. Re: imc new space? an idea (tim ira) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 11:54:33 +0100 (BST) >From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Sophia=20Divvenuto?= >To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au >Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] imc new space? an idea >Reply-To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > >hi >well Im just wondering what you all think about this >idea, as far as new IMC space goes. >At access news we would benifit from having a work >space for what we do, and I recon if IMC and access >news open anew office together (@Irene?) it would be a >good thing. Becaose there will be more people to pay >the rent and source new equipment and it would be >really good to have a strong independant media >workspace. >We just had a.news meeting now and people here are >really up for it. We were thinkig for it not to be an >open access area, but really just for the producers of >imc and access news and other news productions.. >i hope this is making some sense as weve been having a >meeting for HOURS...so yeah..whaddya recon of that? >I have not been in touch with Ross house yet but will >be tommorow. >cheers >SophiaXX > >__________________________________________________ >It's Samaritans' Week. Help Samaritans help others. >Call 08709 000032 to give or donate online now at http://www.samaritans.org/support/donations.shtm > >--__--__-- > >Message: 2 >From: "tim ira" >To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au >Subject: Re: [imc-melbourne-work] imc new space? an idea >Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 15:37:10 +0000 >Reply-To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > >Just though I'd let you know that a member of the greens who came to visit >on sunday has access to unlimited very high speed internet for free through >family connections. He has proposed placing a microwave dish on the roof of >Irenes to see if he can make a direct microwave connection with his house a >few blocks away so we could use his internet for free - which would be damn >fine. He also said he would drop around two nice computers that his work had >lying about. Hopefully he comes through with his offers, but he might not. >I'll check it out and get back to ya. > >Tim > >>From: Sophia Divvenuto >>Reply-To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au >>To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au >>Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] imc new space? an idea >>Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 11:54:33 +0100 (BST) >> >>hi >>well Im just wondering what you all think about this >>idea, as far as new IMC space goes. >>At access news we would benifit from having a work >>space for what we do, and I recon if IMC and access >>news open anew office together (@Irene?) it would be a >>good thing. Becaose there will be more people to pay >>the rent and source new equipment and it would be >>really good to have a strong independant media >>workspace. >>We just had a.news meeting now and people here are >>really up for it. We were thinkig for it not to be an >>open access area, but really just for the producers of >>imc and access news and other news productions.. >>i hope this is making some sense as weve been having a >>meeting for HOURS...so yeah..whaddya recon of that? >>I have not been in touch with Ross house yet but will >>be tommorow. >>cheers >>SophiaXX >> >>__________________________________________________ >>It's Samaritans' Week. Help Samaritans help others. >>Call 08709 000032 to give or donate online now at >>http://www.samaritans.org/support/donations.shtm >>_______________________________________________ >>imc-melbourne-work mailing list >>imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au >>http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work > >_________________________________________________________________ >Surf the net and talk on the phone with Xtra Jetstream @ >http://www.xtra.co.nz/products/0,,5803,00.html ! > > > >--__--__-- > >_______________________________________________ >imc-melbourne-work mailing list >imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au >http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work > > >End of imc-melbourne-work Digest > ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus From changeling_au at angelfire.com Tue May 27 02:56:14 2003 From: changeling_au at angelfire.com (Zaphod Beeblebrox) Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 12:56:14 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Pulled Message-ID: Hi All, pulled - misogynist and racist. ZB ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus From and at antimedia.net Tue May 27 04:32:43 2003 From: and at antimedia.net (and) Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 14:32:43 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: Indymedia & RRR Message-ID: <1054009963.3ed2ea6b47183@webmail.myspinach.org> scott you may want to email both jonothan and nik about this. a ----- Forwarded message from _nIk_ ----- Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 18:39:06 +1000 From: _nIk_ Reply-To: _nIk_ Subject: Indymedia & RRR To: "jonathan, antoinette and marguerite" , and at antimedia.net, imc-melbourne at lists.indymedia.org Hiya Jonathan, First off, the good news - last friday i got a full time job, which means i wont be cold and poor anymore (yay for me). i start next monday... the bad news is that i wont be able to continue doing the RRR indymedia slot - the person who hired me is quitting this week, and the amount of work i have to do will be quite large for the first month (new computers, new websites, lots of overtime). im really sorry about this - i thought it would be fine for me to do both, but after talking through the handover process and what needs to be done, ive realised that there is no way i can do both in the foreseeable future. andrew, indykids - one of y'all are going to have to take the show on (if thats cool with jonathan). the slot is every second tuesday at 5.15pm, starting next tuesday. when someone has been nominated for the position perhaps jonathan and i can have a yack to them about how its worked in the past, good luck with the show in the future (no doubt i will be listening in online) cheers nik -- { smash the symbols of 3mpire in the name of n0thing but the heart's longing ..} -HB_- ----- End forwarded message ----- http://melbourne.indymedia.org http://www.irene.org.au/ From and at antimedia.net Tue May 27 04:34:24 2003 From: and at antimedia.net (and) Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 14:34:24 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: Fwd: Video-Sharing Syndicate/Network Message-ID: <1054010064.3ed2ead0af994@webmail.myspinach.org> this may be of particular interest to you anna, unless you already know about, re video charing syndicate network. a ----- Forwarded message from "dr.woooo" ----- Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 19:14:14 +1000 From: "dr.woooo" Reply-To: "dr.woooo" Subject: Fwd: Video-Sharing Syndicate/Network To: and at antimedia.net, dave at nomasters.org, aggy at myspinach.org, nettime at bbs.thing.net, fragments at va.com.au ----- Forwarded message from access news ----- Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 17:31:20 +1100 From: access news A Call to Join and Contribute to the Establishment of a Video-Sharing Syndicate/Network Project Description: For some time now the idea of utilising peer2peer structures to assemble a user-built distribution platform has been circulating. Recently, in the run-up to the G8 meeting in Evian, a concrete proposal has been made to establish a system for the sharing of video. Long-term we believe that we can assemble a sustainable and scalable platform for audio-visual materials of a critical and independent nature. This is an appeal to groups/individuals to get involved, dedicate some resources, support and expand the project generally. Works to be distributed over the system will vary from somewhat edited footage suitable for use as a stock archive to finished documentaries/films. Each file will be accompanied by metadata in an xml .info file and produced as an searchable RSS feed for people to integrate into their own sites and published on its own website (where there will also be a manifesto, how-to's. contact info for participating groups etc.) Amongst the metadata fields will be a specification for the nature of the license under which the materials may be used (e.g. Creative Commons share-alike) Participants in this project range from SO36 provider in Berlin to people from the No Borders network, Candida TV in Rome, New Global Vision (Italy), Radioserver (Germany), Big Noise Films (New York), Free Speech TV (Colorado), NoWarTV (Roma) Hackitectura (Spain) and individuals from Autonomedia, Mute etc. Groups in the UK, Korea, US and Switzerland have also been approached. If you are interested in the project please get in touch immediately as actions around the g8 will commence on May 29th. Responses should include an email contact, an expression of general agreement with the aims of the project and expected contribution. Please email the mailing list at v2v at coyote1.kein.org. See below for the call for participation in Geneva and the long-term project of video file-sharing: GENEVA03 is a temporary broadcasting studio during the g8-summit transmitting video and audio streams live from the cultural center l'usine in geneva from may 29 to june 3. The livecast will be streamed on the internet and picked up and redistributed by local and international broadcasters as well as projected in the streets and theatres of Geneva. In order to cover the protests between Geneva, Lausanne and Anmasse in real time, media activists will work from the "everyone-is-an-expert" mobile studio van, which - with a self-adjusting bi-directional satellite dish - will provide a mobile internet connection and transmit live-footage from the roaming protests. The GENEVA03 project is a joint effort of a growing number of video activists and independent filmmakers together with dozens of indymedia reporters, to organize and broadcast independent news coverage from the G8 events. We are currently programming a stream, that, besides the live coverage of the mass-protests, will include movies, concerts, talk-shows, vj sessions, subvertisements and other radically innovative formats. The project is an exploration of new forms of collaboration in film and videomaking; a hybrid sending and receiving experiment crossing borders between media. In Geneva we will launch V2V, a peer-to-peer video-sharing network, which will work as both a content management and archiving system. Filmmakers, local and remote, can make contributions. They can upload their films, videos reports and roughly edited material onto more than a dozen servers, which will host the material in the P2P-networks. The V2V standard suggests a set of specifications for the encoding with half of the standard broadcast quality as a compromise between a modest upload-time and a tolerable resolution for screening, in order to facilitate the global exchange of images. At the occasion of the live stream from geneva the V2V virtual video filesharing network will be launched and beta-tested. But the project of an opensource video production and distribution network will be developed further on. This is an open call to join in the production and distribution of the GENEVA03 broadcasts and the launch of the V2V network. 1. Take and rebroadcast the stream, or download broadcast quality video of your choice directly from the server, to rebroadcast in community screenings or on local TV, Radio broadcast, or to simply post the URL of the stream on other web-sites. 2. Upload your video and become part of the stream! Broad themes for content are: ? Freedom of movement and freedom of communication (Migration, Borders, technology, copyright/left ) ? Movement of movements (the view from the ground) ? Control, surveillance, war We are looking for a range of formats, from documentary to comedy, from subvertisements to talk shows, vj sets to animation, and whatever you can imagine. _______________________________________________ v2v mailing list v2v at mail.kein.org http://www.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/v2v ----------------------------------------------------------- SKA TV Suite 75, Trades Hall 54 Lygon St, Carlton Sth Victoria 3053, Australia ph +61 3 9663 6976 SKA TV: http://www.skatv.org.au access news: http://www.accessnews.skatv.org.au Channel 31: http://www.channel31.org.au ----------------------------------------------------------- ----- End forwarded message ----- -- sig/ http://www.infoshop.org http://www.reclaimthestreets.org http://www.ainfos.ca http://slash.autonomedia.org http://www.agp.org ----- End forwarded message ----- http://melbourne.indymedia.org http://www.irene.org.au/ From and at antimedia.net Tue May 27 04:53:19 2003 From: and at antimedia.net (and) Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 14:53:19 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] access news/indy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1054011199.3ed2ef3fe2690@webmail.myspinach.org> I think the access news/indy idea is a great one with enourmous amounts of potential and sounds like the energy could very well be there to make it happen. a Quoting Zaphod Beeblebrox : > It's OK Sophia - you're making perfect sense - amazing what matchsticks can > achieve. :) > I think it's an excellent idea - it's a good time to get alternative media > services sharing resources. We should discuss it in detail at the next > meeting. > Interesting idea about the microwave link Tim. By one of those bizarre > space/time continuum synchronicity things, I was discussing exactly that idea > with Dave on Sunday. There is more info on this growing underground community > at > I hope to get involved with this group soon. If it's as good as it seems, we > should probably get involved as well. > > All the best, > ZB > > -- > > On Tue, 27 May 2003 06:52:38 > imc-melbourne-work-request wrote: > >Send imc-melbourne-work mailing list submissions to > > imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > > > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work > >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > imc-melbourne-work-request at lists.cat.org.au > > > >You can reach the person managing the list at > > imc-melbourne-work-admin at lists.cat.org.au > > > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >than "Re: Contents of imc-melbourne-work digest..." > > > > > >Today's Topics: > > > > 1. imc new space? an idea (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sophia=20Divvenuto?=) > > 2. Re: imc new space? an idea (tim ira) > > > >--__--__-- > > > >Message: 1 > >Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 11:54:33 +0100 (BST) > >From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Sophia=20Divvenuto?= > >To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > >Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] imc new space? an idea > >Reply-To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > > > >hi > >well Im just wondering what you all think about this > >idea, as far as new IMC space goes. > >At access news we would benifit from having a work > >space for what we do, and I recon if IMC and access > >news open anew office together (@Irene?) it would be a > >good thing. Becaose there will be more people to pay > >the rent and source new equipment and it would be > >really good to have a strong independant media > >workspace. > >We just had a.news meeting now and people here are > >really up for it. We were thinkig for it not to be an > >open access area, but really just for the producers of > >imc and access news and other news productions.. > >i hope this is making some sense as weve been having a > >meeting for HOURS...so yeah..whaddya recon of that? > >I have not been in touch with Ross house yet but will > >be tommorow. > >cheers > >SophiaXX > > > >__________________________________________________ > >It's Samaritans' Week. Help Samaritans help others. > >Call 08709 000032 to give or donate online now at > http://www.samaritans.org/support/donations.shtm > > > >--__--__-- > > > >Message: 2 > >From: "tim ira" > >To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > >Subject: Re: [imc-melbourne-work] imc new space? an idea > >Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 15:37:10 +0000 > >Reply-To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > > > >Just though I'd let you know that a member of the greens who came to visit > > >on sunday has access to unlimited very high speed internet for free through > > >family connections. He has proposed placing a microwave dish on the roof of > > >Irenes to see if he can make a direct microwave connection with his house a > > >few blocks away so we could use his internet for free - which would be damn > > >fine. He also said he would drop around two nice computers that his work had > > >lying about. Hopefully he comes through with his offers, but he might not. > > >I'll check it out and get back to ya. > > > >Tim > > > >>From: Sophia Divvenuto > >>Reply-To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > >>To: imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > >>Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] imc new space? an idea > >>Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 11:54:33 +0100 (BST) > >> > >>hi > >>well Im just wondering what you all think about this > >>idea, as far as new IMC space goes. > >>At access news we would benifit from having a work > >>space for what we do, and I recon if IMC and access > >>news open anew office together (@Irene?) it would be a > >>good thing. Becaose there will be more people to pay > >>the rent and source new equipment and it would be > >>really good to have a strong independant media > >>workspace. > >>We just had a.news meeting now and people here are > >>really up for it. We were thinkig for it not to be an > >>open access area, but really just for the producers of > >>imc and access news and other news productions.. > >>i hope this is making some sense as weve been having a > >>meeting for HOURS...so yeah..whaddya recon of that? > >>I have not been in touch with Ross house yet but will > >>be tommorow. > >>cheers > >>SophiaXX > >> > >>__________________________________________________ > >>It's Samaritans' Week. Help Samaritans help others. > >>Call 08709 000032 to give or donate online now at > >>http://www.samaritans.org/support/donations.shtm > >>_______________________________________________ > >>imc-melbourne-work mailing list > >>imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > >>http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Surf the net and talk on the phone with Xtra Jetstream @ > >http://www.xtra.co.nz/products/0,,5803,00.html ! > > > > > > > >--__--__-- > > > >_______________________________________________ > >imc-melbourne-work mailing list > >imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > >http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work > > > > > >End of imc-melbourne-work Digest > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! > Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus > _______________________________________________ > imc-melbourne-work mailing list > imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work > http://melbourne.indymedia.org http://www.irene.org.au/ From and at antimedia.net Tue May 27 04:55:19 2003 From: and at antimedia.net (and) Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 14:55:19 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] oceania indymedia site is live! Message-ID: <1054011319.3ed2efb76553a@webmail.myspinach.org> hey all, after about a year of stuffing around the oceania indymedia hub is finally live. it's at http://www.indymedia.org.au hopefully http://oceania.indymedia.org will also work soon. I will put together a short feature to advertise it's existance and add a link on the left had column. a From and at antimedia.net Tue May 27 08:54:15 2003 From: and at antimedia.net (and) Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 18:54:15 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] list admin Message-ID: <1054025655.3ed327b78beda@webmail.myspinach.org> hey, i am admin for this list and for the eds list and reckon as i will be online less that be good if someone else took that over. all it is is subscribing people to the list and letting the occasional message through to the list. any volunteers? a From shevek at bigpond.com Tue May 27 15:51:18 2003 From: shevek at bigpond.com (Shevek) Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 01:51:18 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Pulled In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3ED38976.4040904@bigpond.com> I've had a look at the last half dozen articles hidden, and I agree that they all needed hiding. Reviewing recent moderation has given me a standard for utilising the moderation power. Takver Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: >Hi All, > pulled - misogynist and racist. > > > From shevek at bigpond.com Wed May 28 12:38:24 2003 From: shevek at bigpond.com (Shevek) Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 22:38:24 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Trades Hall In-Reply-To: <1053828171.3ed0244b1a72d@webmail.myspinach.org> References: <1053828171.3ed0244b1a72d@webmail.myspinach.org> Message-ID: <3ED4ADC0.6050104@bigpond.com> Victorian Trades Hall picked up the Obituary on Vic Little, and provide a link back to our original posting on Indymedia. See http://www.vthc.org.au/media/general_news/20030522_Vic.html And Trades Hall have put out a statement by Sharan Burrow in regards to opposing deportation of Iranian refugees. http://www.vthc.org.au/media/union_news/20030528_Iran.html This probably should be added to the feature as it is an important statement. Takver From shevek at bigpond.com Wed May 28 12:51:42 2003 From: shevek at bigpond.com (Shevek) Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 22:51:42 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] oceania indymedia site is live! In-Reply-To: <1054011319.3ed2efb76553a@webmail.myspinach.org> References: <1054011319.3ed2efb76553a@webmail.myspinach.org> Message-ID: <3ED4B0DE.5050908@bigpond.com> It looks good, but I have found a bug. Aotearoa imc urls are generating www.indymedia.org.au/... when they should be www.indymedia.org.nz/... The links are fine once nz is subst for au. Takver and wrote: >hey all, after about a year of stuffing around the oceania indymedia hub is >finally live. >it's at >http://www.indymedia.org.au >hopefully >http://oceania.indymedia.org will also work soon. >I will put together a short feature to advertise it's existance and add a link >on the left had column. >a >_______________________________________________ >imc-melbourne-work mailing list >imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au >http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work > > > From scotthumour at yahoo.com.au Wed May 28 14:37:08 2003 From: scotthumour at yahoo.com.au (=?iso-8859-1?q?scott=20anderson?=) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 00:37:08 +1000 (EST) Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Fwd: Indymedia & RRR In-Reply-To: <1054009963.3ed2ea6b47183@webmail.myspinach.org> Message-ID: <20030528143708.90860.qmail@web9205.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Andrew - thanks for the note. I'll be in contact with them - Scott. and wrote:scott you may want to email both jonothan and nik about this. a ----- Forwarded message from _nIk_ ----- Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 18:39:06 +1000 From: _nIk_ Reply-To: _nIk_ Subject: Indymedia & RRR To: "jonathan, antoinette and marguerite" , and at antimedia.net, imc-melbourne at lists.indymedia.org Hiya Jonathan, First off, the good news - last friday i got a full time job, which means i wont be cold and poor anymore (yay for me). i start next monday... the bad news is that i wont be able to continue doing the RRR indymedia slot - the person who hired me is quitting this week, and the amount of work i have to do will be quite large for the first month (new computers, new websites, lots of overtime). im really sorry about this - i thought it would be fine for me to do both, but after talking through the handover process and what needs to be done, ive realised that there is no way i can do both in the foreseeable future. andrew, indykids - one of y'all are going to have to take the show on (if thats cool with jonathan). the slot is every second tuesday at 5.15pm, starting next tuesday. when someone has been nominated for the position perhaps jonathan and i can have a yack to them about how its worked in the past, good luck with the show in the future (no doubt i will be listening in online) cheers nik -- { smash the symbols of 3mpire in the name of n0thing but the heart's longing ..} -HB_- ----- End forwarded message ----- http://melbourne.indymedia.org http://www.irene.org.au/ _______________________________________________ imc-melbourne-work mailing list imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mobile - Check & compose your email via SMS on your Telstra or Vodafone mobile. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.indymedia.org.au/pipermail/imc-melbourne-work/attachments/20030529/1af17a09/attachment.htm From shevek at bigpond.com Thu May 29 00:17:47 2003 From: shevek at bigpond.com (Shevek) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 10:17:47 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Pulled In-Reply-To: <3ED38976.4040904@bigpond.com> References: <3ED38976.4040904@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <3ED551AB.3070806@bigpond.com> Duplicate entry hidden - Geneva boarded up ahead of G8 protests http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2003/05/48157.php I also phoned up Talk Back with attitude on 3CR this morning and had a talk about the top two feature stories. Takver From and at antimedia.net Thu May 29 02:22:44 2003 From: and at antimedia.net (and) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 12:22:44 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] oceania indymedia site is live! In-Reply-To: <3ED4B0DE.5050908@bigpond.com> References: <1054011319.3ed2efb76553a@webmail.myspinach.org> <3ED4B0DE.5050908@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <1054174964.3ed56ef4ca4fb@webmail.myspinach.org> yeah,it's not as live as i thought, that needs to be fixed. if people are interested they can get on the oceania list (there are people on there from melb, syd, bris, adelaide, perth, nz and manilla indymedias) list is here http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-oceania Quoting Shevek : > It looks good, but I have found a bug. Aotearoa imc urls are generating > www.indymedia.org.au/... when they should be www.indymedia.org.nz/... > The links are fine once nz is subst for au. > > Takver > > and wrote: > > >hey all, after about a year of stuffing around the oceania indymedia hub is > > >finally live. > >it's at > >http://www.indymedia.org.au > >hopefully > >http://oceania.indymedia.org will also work soon. > >I will put together a short feature to advertise it's existance and add a > link > >on the left had column. > >a > >_______________________________________________ > >imc-melbourne-work mailing list > >imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > >http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > imc-melbourne-work mailing list > imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work > http://melbourne.indymedia.org http://www.irene.org.au/ From and at antimedia.net Thu May 29 02:26:20 2003 From: and at antimedia.net (and) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 12:26:20 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Pulled In-Reply-To: <3ED551AB.3070806@bigpond.com> References: <3ED38976.4040904@bigpond.com> <3ED551AB.3070806@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <1054175180.3ed56fcc3bb31@webmail.myspinach.org> hey takver, there is an admin list specifically for emailing when you pull stuff, just cause there can be a lot sometimes. you can get on at http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-admin > I also phoned up Talk Back with attitude on 3CR this morning and had a > talk about the top two feature stories. > Takver cool. a > > _______________________________________________ > imc-melbourne-work mailing list > imc-melbourne-work at lists.cat.org.au > http://lists.cat.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imc-melbourne-work > http://melbourne.indymedia.org http://www.irene.org.au/ From fragments at va.com.au Fri May 30 02:10:53 2003 From: fragments at va.com.au (_nIk_) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 12:10:53 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] Re: RRR & indymedia radio slot In-Reply-To: <20021211055423.5193.25742.Mailman@conway.cat.org.au> References: <20021211055423.5193.25742.Mailman@conway.cat.org.au> Message-ID: jonathan's email address: "jonathan, antoinette and marguerite" Dear Nik/ et al Further to my last; Nik after discussing a few ideas via email with the Programme Manager at RRR , Tracee Hutchison (cced above) , I think I'd like to suggest the following. We'll leave Indymedia this coming Tues as you can't do it (congrats again on the new gig). I'll explain the slot is taking a break for the week and give you a big on air thank you. This would leave the segment due on June 17. Between then and now , I'll ask the Indycrew to come up with someone who fulfill the following criteria *Ability to clearly communicate to listeners the issues at hand and the tenets of why they are important and not perhaps being reported elsewhere *A lively, engaging radio presence *Potential to develop a 'rapport' with listeners and myself *Someone who might be a little more adept at thinking on their feet *Someone organised enough to email through 3 topics for discussion the day before and call at 5.10 once a fortnight *Somone who's keen, interested, and think they'll enjoy it ! Once you have someone in mind, I'd propose a meeting on June 10 at 3.15 at RRR, assuming all concerned can attend. cheers and thanks again Nik for all your effort and work Jonathan -- { smash the symbols of 3mpire in the name of n0thing but the heart's longing ..} -HB_- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.indymedia.org.au/pipermail/imc-melbourne-work/attachments/20030530/75fa7f56/attachment.htm From ira_tim at hotmail.com Fri May 30 06:33:08 2003 From: ira_tim at hotmail.com (tim ira) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 06:33:08 +0000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] some computers have been delivered to Irene's Message-ID: Mat, a loverly person involved with the greens has given us/irenes 4 computers + a hub for 140 computers! I'm not sure what to do with them though... I'm not on the geek list so if someone could post It there that would be cool. here are the spec that I could Identify without pulling them apart. 1: P120, 64meg RAM, 1gig HD 2: P200 3: P120, 32meg RAM, 2.4gig HD 4: ???CPU, 2gig SCSI HD 1,2, and 3 have cd-roms too. Not sure what to do with the Hub as I can't possibly imagine when we ever would have 140 computers? Any Ideas about anything? Maybe a geek bee thing? Tim _________________________________________________________________ Need more speed? Get Xtra Jetstream @ http://www.xtra.co.nz/products/0,,5803,00.html ! From fragments at va.com.au Fri May 16 07:31:21 2003 From: fragments at va.com.au (_nIk_) Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 17:31:21 +1000 Subject: [imc-melbourne-work] indymedia radio slot In-Reply-To: <1029210096.3d587ff08de20@webmail.myspinach.org> References: <1029200532.3d585a9481934@webmail.myspinach.org> <1029202407.3d5861e7c0dfc@webmail.pacific.net.au> <1029204717.3d586aedf3c47@webmail.myspinach.org> <1029209287.3d587cc7a88a6@webmail.pacific.net.au> <1029210096.3d587ff08de20@webmail.myspinach.org> Message-ID: heya gang, just checking in to see if anyone has replied to jonathan at RRR re: the radio slot. he's emailed me asking if anyone wants to do it. i reckon it would be a real waste if indymedia didnt keep this happening - it reaches smewhere between 15-20,000 ppl a fortnight, his last email is below, nik ---- from: "jonathan, antoinette and marguerite" Dear Nik/ et al Further to my last; Nik after discussing a few ideas via email with the Programme Manager at RRR , Tracee Hutchison (cced above) , I think I'd like to suggest the following. We'll leave Indymedia this coming Tues as you can't do it (congrats again on the new gig). I'll explain the slot is taking a break for the week and give you a big on air thank you. This would leave the segment due on June 17. Between then and now , I'll ask the Indycrew to come up with someone who fulfill the following criteria *Ability to clearly communicate to listeners the issues at hand and the tenets of why they are important and not perhaps being reported elsewhere *A lively, engaging radio presence *Potential to develop a 'rapport' with listeners and myself *Someone who might be a little more adept at thinking on their feet *Someone organised enough to email through 3 topics for discussion the day before and call at 5.10 once a fortnight *Somone who's keen, interested, and think they'll enjoy it ! Once you have someone in mind, I'd propose a meeting on June 10 at 3.15 at RRR, assuming all concerned can attend. cheers and thanks again Nik for all your effort and work Jonathan -- { smash the symbols of 3mpire in the name of n0thing but the heart's longing ..} -HB_- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.indymedia.org.au/pipermail/imc-melbourne-work/attachments/20030516/b68dbb63/attachment.htm